Tuesday, July 09, 2019

Italy Is Once Again Justice Forerunner In Case With Poss Future Global Implications

Posted by The TJMK Main Posters

From 1975 to 1980 six dictatorships in South American killed at least 23 Italian citizens.

The Italians were political opponents of the dictatorships in Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay, Brazil, Bolivia and Argentina.

Those dictatorships had created a joint operation, Operation Condor, to disappear or openly kill such “nuisance elements”.

As the video hints, the CIA had a murky role.

Despite that, some 24 surviving organizers of Operation Condor have just been sentenced to life by an Italian court.

They include several of the former dictators.

If extradition laws are correctly observed, and the US finds a way to not intervene, Italy will need to make ready some presidential cells.

Posted by The TJMK Main Posters on 07/09/19 at 09:56 PM in


Meanwhile the seven-year-old case is still not played out in India in which two Italian Navy gunners killed some poor Indian fishermen

They seemed to the gunners possible hijackers - that area off south-west India is at the eastern point of where the Somali cargo-vessel hijackers operated.

Italy did long ago pay heavy reparations, and it claims that under worldwide military protocols it is their right, only, to put their own military staff on trial (or not).

By way of this German case India might become aware that it could try the men, not under India’s law, but under the International Criminal Code, which is less of a stretch.


This sure is a tough one for Italy to put to bed. Financial costs have become ridiculously enormous on both sides.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 07/10/19 at 06:09 PM | #

Law schools worldwide are on the alert! To them, Italy’s and Germany’s moves are interesting stuff.

It seems possible that in future other countries will follow Italy’s proactive legal scenario in the Operation Condor case, especially if extradition occurs.

But Germany’s proactive legal scenario seems to promise a much greater punch, especially if it is applied to other nations as opposed to individuals accused of war crimes.

The reason is that International Criminal Code is the body of law evolved since 1945 by the UN’s World Court in The Hague (created in Italy, by the way, the “Rome Treaty” part kinda gives that away).

Oddly, although the World Court was created largely by Americans, at the end of World War Two, there was never a 2/3 majority in the US Senate to ratify US membership so it is not reliably part of the compulsory jurisdiction.

Almost all other nations worldwide are “members” of the World Court, reassured to be there because of the absence for the most part of binding force and respect for sovereignty (which the American drafters had written in!)

Cases can only be referred to the World Court in last resort. All “lower level” courts and laws have priority.

In effect Germany is now expanding the power of those.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 07/11/19 at 02:49 PM | #

Several times I stayed in Amsterdam and shuttled to the Hague to deal with an arm of the Dutch government, but didnt ever think to check out the World Court.

Netherlands also hosts another important arm of the UN, a campus of the UN University in Maastricht in the south-east.

Typically, host countries for UN bodies come out financially ahead.

The US makes billions out of the UN HQ and other bodies in NYC and all these associated diplomatic missions.


Plus the IMF and World Bank in DC and specialist manpower in every Embassy to interact with them.

The US makes even more out of the UN via American staff salaries, American equipment bought, and American university fees paid, than the smallish sums it pays for membership of various UN bodies around the world. 

What? Your Congressperson did not tell you this?!

Posted by Peter Quennell on 07/11/19 at 03:09 PM | #

Argentinian justice is also under pressure internally, to roll back runaway violence by Argentinian men against women.

Some attempts at systems enhancements are described in this article.


Italy though not perfect (as we well know) typically is good at pursuing better systems for itself and other nations.


It sure helps to have almost all justice staff on career paths. The CSM (governing body) is often amazing. 

Italian justice’s biggest problem? Politicians….

Posted by Peter Quennell on 07/12/19 at 12:21 PM | #

Italy reappears in the interesting part of the international justice news yet again. In fact on the RUSSIAN website of the BBC!


Just arrested in Italy by the Financial Police (in a location not named yet to thwart rescue attempts) is a Russian citizen, Dmitry Vasilyev.

He had run a crypto-coin exchange in the UK, which collapsed when Greece arrested Alexander Vinnik, Vasilyev’s co-manager, after clients claimed fraud.

Vasilyev had been up to something murky in Italy, under an assumed name. Well done, BBC. 

If this first report below is correct, he just might be the world’s richest guy, having walked off with $200 BILLION.



Posted by Peter Quennell on 07/21/19 at 02:12 PM | #

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