Ten Examples Of How The Former Campus Cop Steve Moore Serially Mischaracterizes The Case

1. The Chronic Chest-Thumper

A couple of weeks ago Steve Moore was frogmarched out of his workplace on the campus of Pepperdine University and told not to come back.

Although Pepperdine apparently offered him a deal for his resignation, he refused, and so he probably departed with only the minimal severance entitlements in his contract. Now he is suing Pepperdine, presumably to see if he can get a little bit more. 

Steve Moore has been rather plaintively claiming since the firing that he did nothing wrong, except to avidly support the innocence of Amanda Knox in his own time. No mention of his confused take on the case or of Pepperdine’s exchange students in Italy who must rely on the police Moore delights in trashing.

We suspect that a lot of things about his confused, hurtful and ebullient campaign reached the front office of Pepperdine University and its Law School, and that some or many of these things may come out in the open when Steve Moore’s suit goes to court. Our next post will contemplate what some of these things may be.

2. Moore Adrift On Hard Facts

It’s not a secret at all to those involved in handling the case in Perugia and Rome (where Moore is much ridiculed) and presumably now at Pepperdine (which has a very good law school, one capable of correctly absorbing the Massei report) is how Steve Moore is serially unable to get the facts right.

His media interviews have followed the very familiar PR script. The presenter or journalist begins by really talking up Steve Moore’s 25-year career with the FBI as one of the FBI’s really big stars! Then going to to emphasize how Steve Moore has REALLY done his homework on this case! On the NBC Today Show, for example, it was claimed that Steve Moore has studied “every iota of evidence”! Reporter Linda Byron stated on Seattle’s King 5 TV that he had obtained the trial transcripts and the police and autopsy records! And Moore had all of them translated into English!

The intended message is clear: Steve Moore is an exceptionally credible professional expert in all the relevant fields! He knows this case inside out because he has researched it absolutely meticulously!

In this piece, we will compare just a few of the many claims that Steve Moore has made - here in interviews with Frank Shiers on Seattle’s Kiro FM Radio, with Ann Curry on the NBC Today Show, with George Stephanopoulos on ABC News, and with Monique Ming Laven on Seattle’s Kiro 7 TV - with the real facts, as described in the Massei report and the witness testimony from the trial.

3. Ten Of The Oft Repeated Lies By Moore

Frequent Moore Lie 1: The large knife doesn’t match the large wound on Meredith’s neck.

Steve Moore has repeatedly claimed in interviews with for example Frank Shiers, Ann Curry and Monique Laven that the double DNA knife doesn’t match the large wound on Meredith’s neck.

Untrue. Prosecution experts, multiple defence experts and Judge Massei in his report have all agreed that the double DNA knife DID match the large wound on Meredith’s neck.

On these matters, the considerations already made must be recalled, which led this Court to evaluate the outcome of the genetic investigation as reliable, and this knife as absolutely compatible with the most serious wound. (The Massei report, page 375).

Barbie Nadeau reported directly from the courtroom in Perugia that multiple witnesses for the defence, including Dr. Carlo Torre, conceded that the double DNA knife was compatible with the deep puncture wound in Meredith’s neck.

“According to multiple witnesses for the defense, the knife is compatible with at least one of the three wounds on Kercher’s neck, but it was likely too large for the other two.” (Barbie Nadeau, Newsweek).

He (Dr. Carlo Torre, defence expert) conceded that a third larger wound could have been made with the knife, but said it was more likely it was made by twisting a smaller knife. (Barbie Nadeau, The Daily Beast).

For someone who has allegedly “studied every iota of evidence”, it seems that Steve Moore is doing nothing more than regurgitating a familiar FOA myth that has long been completely debunked.

He clearly hasn’t studied every iota of evidence. Very far from it.

Monique Ming Laven had a copy of the English translation of the Massei report. Warning bells should have gone off in her head as soon as Moore claimed the double DNA knife didn’t match the large wound on Meredith’s neck, and yet she didn’t challenge him.

Frequent Moore Lie 2: They want you to believe that Amanda Knox inflicted all three wounds on Meredith’s neck

Moore stated in an interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC News that “they” claimed that Knox caused all three wounds on Meredith’s neck.

“What they’re having you, what they want you to believe is that in the middle of a life and death struggle, holding a girl who is fighting for her life. Amanda stabbing someone for the first time in her life, takes two stabs with a very small knife, throws it away and says give me the other one” (5.48 -  6.05)

Untrue. Neither the judges and jury nor the prosecution have ever claimed that Amanda Knox inflicted all three wounds on Meredith’s neck:

“Elements which lead one to consider that the 4cm in depth wound was inflicted by Raffaele Sollecito with the pocket knife that he was always carrying around with him, and was inflicted immediately after having cut the bra…” (The Massei report, page 374).

The following extract is from Mignini’s timeline, which was presented at the trial on 20 November 2009 by the prosecutors:

23.30 ...At this point, the two knives emerge from the pockets of Amanda and Raffaele: one with a blade of four to five centimetres, the other however a big kitchen knife. Meredith tries to fend off the blades with her right hand. She is wounded.

23:40 ...The three become more violent. With the smaller knife, Sollecito strikes a blow: the blade penetrates 4 centimetres into the neck.

The timeline presented by the prosecutors during their summation was published in Il Messagero and other Italian newspapers. It was translated by main poster Tiziano and our other Italian speakers and posted on PMF and TJMK here.

Frequent Moore Lie 3: Meredith had no defensive wounds on her hands

Steve Moore told Frank Shiers on Kiro FM that Meredith had no defensive wounds on her hands.

Untrue. Moore clearly hadn’t read the autopsy report, or its summary in the Massei Report.

“They consist also in some tiny defensive wounds: one on the palm of her [396] right hand of a length of .6cm showing a tiny amount of blood; another on the ulnar surface of the first phalange of the second finger of the left hand, also of length .6cm; another on the fingertip of the first finger with a superficial wound of .3cm, and another tiny wound corresponding to the fourth radius.” (The Massei report, pages 369-370).

Frequent Moore Lie 4: Rudy left his hair and fluid samples on Meredith’s body.

Steve Moore has made this claim in interviews with Frank Shiers and George Stephanopoulos.

Untrue. Rudy Guede did not leave any hair or fluid samples on Meredith’s body. There is no mention of Rudy Guede leaving his hair or fluid samples on Meredith’s body in either the Micheli report or the Massei report.

Steve Moore is simply making things up or relying on false information.

Frequent Moore Lie 5: Amanda and Raffaele didn’t step in blood and that can’t be avoided

In his interview with Frank Shiers, Steve Moore claimed that Knox and Sollecito didn’t step in Meredith’s blood.

Untrue. The Massei report completely contradicts this claim. It notes that Amanda Knox stepped in Meredith’s blood and tracked the blood with her feet into her own room, the corridor, and Filomena’s room:

Even the traces highlighted by Luminol therefore show the existence of evidence against Amanda, making [the Court] consider that she, having been barefoot in the room where Meredith was killed and having thus stained her feet, had left the traces highlighted by Luminol (which could have resisted the subsequent action of cleaning, on which more will follow) and found in the various parts of the house which she went to for the reasons shown above (her own room, the corridor, Romanelli’s room). (The Massei report, page 382).

Judge Massei attributed the visible bloody footprint on the bathroom mat to Raffaele Sollecito and categorically ruled out the possibility that it could have belonged to Rudy Guede:

“Also from this viewpoint it must be excluded that the print left on the sky-blue mat in the little bathroom could be attributable to Rudy.  A footprint that, for what has been observed in the relevant chapter [of this report] and for the reasons just outlined, must be attributed to Raffaele Sollecito…” (The Massei report, page 379).

The bare bloody footprint in the corridor, referred in the Massei report as trace 2, was attributed to Raffaele Sollecito:

In this particular case, they lead to an opinion of probable identity with one subject (Sollecito with respect to trace 2, Amanda Knox with respect to traces 1 and 7) and to the demonstrated exclusion of the other two. (The Massei report, page 349).

Frequent Moore Lie 6: None of the luminol prints or stains contained Meredith’s DNA

Steve Moore told Frank Shiers that Meredith’s DNA wasn’t found in any of the luminol prints or stains.

Untrue. Meredith’s DNA was found in the luminol traces in the corridor and in Filomena’s room.

Amanda (with her feet stained with Meredith’s blood for having been present in her room when she was killed) had gone into Romanelli’s room and into her [own] room leaving traces [which were highlighted] by Luminol, some of which (one in the corridor, the L8, and one, the L2, in Romanelli’s room) were mixed, that is, constituted of a biological trace attributable to [both] Meredith and Amanda…” (The Massei report, page 380).

Frequent Moore Lie 7: The prosecutor through fierce interrogation coerced Amanda into implicating someone else in the case

Steve Moore has made this claim on a number of occasions

Untrue. The prosecutor wasn’t even present when Amanda Knox first accused Diya Lumumba.

Dr Mignini was called to the police station after she had ALREADY admitted that she was at the cottage when Meredith was killed and after she had ALREADY made her false and malicious accusation against Lumumba.

Her implication of Lumumba was triggered by sight of a phone message she had denied. She had an interpreter with her at all times, and she had a lawyer present at all times after her status moved to that of a self-proclaimed witness.

Her own lawyers never ever claimed the interrogation was anything out of the ordinary (Italian law requires that lawyers report real claims of abuse), or that for a suspect she was treated less than kindly.

They never filed any complaint, contributing to her calunnia conviction, and making her situation at her slander trial in Florence in November one that is dire and untenable. 

Frequent Moore Lie 8: Amanda Knox wasn’t given food or drinks when she was questioned by the police.

Steve Moore claimed on the Today Show and ABC News that Amanda Knox wasn’t given food or drinks when she was questioned.

Untrue. Monica Napoleoni testified that Amanda Knox was given things to eat and drink.

“Ms Napoleoni told the court that while she was at the police station Ms Knox had been “treated very well. She was given water, camomile tea and breakfast. She was given cakes from a vending machine and then taken to the canteen at the police station for something to eat.” (Richard Owen in The Times, 1 March 2009).

Amanda Knox even herself confirmed during her testimony at the trial that she was given something to eat and drink.

Frequent Moore Lie 9: Amanda Knox was interrogated in Italian on 5 November 2007

Steve Moore stated in his interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC News that Amanda Knox was interrogated in Italian, a language he says she barely knew, on 5 November 2007.

Untrue. Interpreters were present at all sesions on 2, 3, 4 and 5 November and their names appear in the records Knox signed. Knox was provided with an interpreter, Anna Donnino, on 5 November 2007, who translated all the police officers’ questions into English for her and translated her answers back.

In Amanda Knox’s own testimony on the stand in June 2009, she even referred to this interpreter - she claimed the interpreter seemed to give her some advice at one point.

Frequent Moore Lie 10: Amanda Knox recanted her accusation against Diya Lumumba as soon as she got some food

Steve Moore has made this claim in numerous interviews and articles.

Untrue. Amanda Knox didn’t retract her accusation as soon as she got some food at all. In fact, she reiterated her allegation in her handwritten note to the police on 6 November 2007 which was admitted in evidence:

[Amanda] herself, furthermore, in the statement of 6 November 2007 (admitted into   evidence ex. articles 234 and 237 of the Criminal Procedure Code and which was mentioned above) wrote, among other things, the following: I stand by my - accusatory - statements that I made last night about events that could have taken place in my home with Patrick…in these flashbacks that I’m having, I see Patrick as the murderer…”.

This statement, as specified in the report on it of 6 November 2007 at 2:00pm, by the Police Chief Inspector, Rita Ficarra, was drawn up, following the notification of the detention measure, by Amanda Knox, who “requested blank papers in order to produce a written statement to hand over” to the same Ficarra. (The Massei report, page 389).

The Massei court took note of the fact that Amanda Knox didn’t recant her false and malicious allegation against Diya Lumumba during the whole of the time he was kept in prison. Later courts noted that she told her mother she felt bad about it.

4. Verdict On Steve Moore

He is either an incompetemt or a phoney. Either way he is not to be trusted.

His various surfacings smack of a Walter Mitty character making things up as he goes along, with an expression and a tone of voice that suggests he is thinking “Yes, folks, this REALLY is all about ME.” 

He will save Knox! He will save Knox! Come what may!

Steve Moore has never ever addressed the numerous smoking-gun issues, like Knox’s and Sollecito’s many lies before and after 5 November 2007. It seems that perhaps he’s not even aware of them - he certainly seems to think Amanda Knox only lied on 5 November 2007.

Italian authorities worked hard and professionally in Perugia and Rome to get this case right. If he is ever to speak up again with any credibility at all, Steve Moore needs to read and actually understand the Massei report in its entirety.

It’s unforgivable for him to get so many facts wrong on so many occasions in front of large audiences, and then use those wrong facts to make multiple highly unprofessional accusations against the authorities in Perugia and Rome.

He would never have got away with this about a US case. He would have been held in contempt of court for trying to poison the jury pool.

And the journalists who get to interview him REALLY should have alarm bells going off when he comes out with his many fictions.

It was very remiss of Monique Ming Laven and Ann Curry not to challenge Moore over any of his false claims, such as the double DNA knife being incompatible with the large wound on Meredith’s neck. George Stephanopolous did at least make some small attempt to push back.

Steve Moore is not only oblivious to many facts about the case.

He seems totally oblivious to the real hurt that his cowardly, dishonest, self-serving campaign from across the Atlantic is inflicting on Meredith’s family and her friends.

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@themachine: wow - thank you for this detailed rebuttal to Steve Moore’s outlandish claims.

Your description of Moore being frogmarched out of his place of employment speaks volumes about his professional conduct. Another star Knox defender bites the dust.

Posted by giustizia on 10/12/10 at 09:30 PM | #

By Storm Roberts (Innai)

And the lesson here is very simple - Read the Massei Report.

Machine, excellent as always; the Massei Report is just so thorough, detailed and logical it is impossible to ignore if you want to understand this case.  It should be starting point for any discussion and journalists have no excuse (thanks to the team of translators from here and PMF they don’t even have the language barrier excuse) for not doing their research and making sure they have the official court sentencing report as the basis of any interview or written piece.

I am very glad you wrote that last paragraph - After all this time so many people do not seem to realise that the victim in this case is Meredith Kercher, Meredith and her family and friends.  It is one of the things that drew me here to TJMK, the fact that Meredith is recognised for the intelligent, strong, beautiful young woman she was, for the friend, sister and daughter she was, and for the woman she could have been.  Alongside the Massei Report the journalists and commenters on this case need to take a moment and think about Meredith, remember her and consider the promise she had - maybe then they will realise that the world is a poorer place without her.

Posted by Nolongeramember on 10/12/10 at 09:35 PM | #

The saddest aspect of Steve Moore’s ill advised ramblings is that it would appear that his wife set him up for failure. Sometimes, people do stupid things when goaded or challenged by a loved one. I assume he is now too proud to back off and admit that he went off half-cocked, and also therefore indirectly admit that his wife may have been wrong in not checking that the FOA propaganda could be dangerously misleading. Someone close to them needs to do some damage control in the Moore house, before the practicalities of domestic life without an income exacerbates their situation.

Posted by Terence on 10/12/10 at 09:38 PM | #

Thank you Machine!  Once again you have laid out so very clearly the basic and clear cut facts of this sad case—that leave no room for any doubt about Knox’s disgusting involvement in taking this young woman’s life.  Every time I read one of your posts I wish terribly that one of these so called american journalists would bring YOU onto one of their shows to refute face to face the garbage spewing of people like steve moore—he’d have nowhere to crawl under when the FACTS stand before him for all to hear except for maybe the chair he’d be sitting in..the silence would be deadening!

Posted by rach on 10/12/10 at 10:03 PM | #

Moore could have some credibility if he actually knew the evidence of the case (whether he agreed with it or not).  I am not talking about having a pro-Amanda view of evidence – I’m talking about the basic facts.  Time and again on his TV appearances, he has shown quite clearly he does not know the objective evidence which is not in dispute by either defence or prosecution. 

As well as everything Machine illustrates here, there are multiple instances where he has not known basics like the timings of key events in the crime or even appeared to be unable to remember Meredith’s name. A single example: he suggested that the forensic examination was corrupt because it should have been conducted somewhere far away from Perugia, like Rome. He sought to make a big principles / higher-standards point with such claims and looked disapproving and superior. Of course, it was all just random bluster based on a lack of knowledge of the case. It WAS conducted in Rome. 

He has claimed on US television that Amanda was (and I quote) “beaten” and that her interrogation was “just short of waterboarding” which is the most hysterical hyperbole and overstatement.  As anyone on either side knows, Amanda’s claim is that she was clipped over the head – and that’s it - twice by a police officer she can’t identify.  I have never met a credible law enforcement officer or legal professional who would transmute being clipped over the head into “beating” and “just short of waterboarding” .  Such baseless exaggeration and overstatement is a MAJOR clue to Amanda-supporters of the credibility of the man.  Even Steve Moore’s loyal wife would recognise this as patently ridiculous.

Given he says such ridiculous, laughable things, how does anyone take him seriously?  Really, how can one take him seriously?

Worse, for someone who would help someone on an *appeal* he proudly says he hasn’t even read the judges’s 400+ page written report so he doesn’t actually know the basis of judgement against her which is what he’s supposed to be fighting since it’s an *appeal*. As someone involved in the legal / law enforcement profession, I cannot imagine a single professional I have known who would flout this as a badge of pride – it utterly undermines him.

If Steve Moore had presented a case with such a fundamental lack of appreciation of (and I stress this) uncontested facts and key timings when he was in the FBI (in whatever capacity before being a helicopter pilot for it), he would have been stomped all over by his bosses.  No such case would *ever* have made it to court on the part of the FBI, an agency with high standards. And yet here is a man who is willing to go on television and expose his own wilful ignorance?

Amanda’s lawyers in Italy have publicly disapproved of his presence (politely, subtly yet in a crystal clear fashion) yet he actively continues to harm her chances in Italy which is the only venue that matters for the appeal.  Raffaele Sollecito’s family have even made an appeal for such actions to stop. Does Steve Moore pay attention?  Of course not.  He’s too busy arranging a bible and an ammo clip as background scenery for his latest interview.  No, really, that’s what they were.

Moore’s lack of judgement, lack of knowledge of the case-essential evidence and hysterical pronouncements should be a major warning flag to those who support Amanda that this is a guy who doesn’t live up to his claimed (but mysteriously unclear) credentials.  He’s a guy who has been revved up by the PR story for her defence who is trying to make a name for himself and showing himself up incredibly badly while he does it.  And hurting Amanda Knox’s chances while he does it.

Posted by SomeAlibi on 10/12/10 at 10:10 PM | #

Excellent summary and analysis “The Machine”...as usual.  What an accurate reference about Steve Moore for journalists and others following this case.

Perhaps it would be good reading for Steve Moore’s “future” employers as well.  He definitely lacks that all important trait that so many managers require from their employees:  “Attention to Detail”

Thanks again,


By the way, great post SomeAlibi.

Posted by Tara on 10/13/10 at 12:38 AM | #


First, a big THANK YOU to The Machine for a great post.

Steve Moore, well, he’s a cop. With a cop, it’s always about other cops. It’s a man thing. He’s fixated on the Italian police, trying to prove them wrong. Amanda’s just the sad little bait, an excuse for him to tangle with brothers in blue, but now he’s got a little detour called Pepperdine.

Any cop who feels he must atone for putting bad guys behind bars needs help.

Good for The Machine, tell it like it is. Your rebuttal of Moore under “False Claim 5” says that Amanda’s bare feet did step in Meredith’s blood. Then her bloody feet left traces revealed by Luminol in the corridor, her bedroom, and Filomena’s bedroom. Thanks for elucidating this from the Massei Report.

So much for Moore’s innocent sweetheart.

Terence, I agree with ALL your comments especially about Mrs. Moore.

Posted by Hopeful on 10/13/10 at 01:07 AM | #

What a tremendous article.

The impeccable documentation for the disembowelment of Moore by Machine was a breathtaking pleasure to behold.

Each of Moore’s panting enhanced, sickeningly similar, scripted, tired talking point Dog and Pony shows was total torture for anyone above being superficially familiar with the case to suffer through

As Machine so correctly observes, from the fawning, gushing awe struck, air head interviewer’s introductory gushing about how wonderful and qualified Moore is,  to the last powder puff pre-arranged questions that are little more than straight man like lead ins for his next factually deficient dismal disgusting diatribe:  yes, it is ever so repulsive and revolting.

Speaking of airheads, either the blooper queen herself, Ann Murray misread her 3X5 cue cards or the backward baseball hat intern producer wannabee gave her the wrong total pages of the Motivations Translations for the opener turn off in the NBC stint.
But what would NBC be without Ann showing the world just how easy it is to say or to read something just plain stupid at least once a show.

Little miscues like that simply cause the real students of the case to tune them out immediately.

Like the overly enthusiastic Linda Byron who bragged while flipping huge stacks of copier paper to impress her hometown viewers that Moore had obtained and translated the *entire* trial transcript as well as all Police and Autopsy Reports.

The very next day on the also Seattle bobrivers show, a listener questioning… a 10,000 page translation and possession of restricted access reports ??? caused Moore to appear even sweatier than usual as he hastily tap danced a denial of he himself ever saying that.
He actually blamed an “overly enthusiastic” interviewer (Byron and or producer) for the excess gushing and fawning “error” (which he of course never corrected on the spot)

Moore however manages to turn everybody except the totally clueless off with his Mussolini stuccato delivery style of falsehoods, misinformation,misrepresentations, and a liberal allotment of unadulterated lies.

On his last morning ticket punch of US Morning TV shows, with CBS, his simpleton story for the ‘Oprah-esque’ human interest injection of his wife seeing about the case on TV as his motivation to act got ‘added icing’ applied.

Now on CBS Morning,  the particular show Michelle watched for the first time became further identified the *CBS* 48hr special.
Oh, how convenient and “cutsey wootsey”, Steve.

If the unashamed pandering and groan inducing posterior kissing to CBS was not enough, try remembering that one of the prime CBS persons involved with the (now fully identified *CBS* show)  was the recently ‘un jailed’ convicted felon, R.Halderman.

Finally, Moore’s arrogance astounds me.

When someone as near to the case as Amanda herself pleads for Italian Bashing to stop, and each of the Defense Attorneys begs specifically for him to stop, Macho Moore unfazed, brays on and on about 3rd world interrogation techniques, planted evidence, corruption, inefficiency, incompetence,... Blah…Bash… Blah.

Even when Pepperdine suggested that a primary part of his $100,000.00/yr salaried position was to protect their Italian based students.
His bashing of the very officials he must interact with was ill advised and must stop.
His bashing rolls on unabated until he is unceremoniously fired.

In a still more disgusting piece of fiction, after losing the Pepperdine job thru his own arrogance, Moore then pimps himself out as a Free Speech proponent undeservedly victimized by getting himself fired.

He then tries to float a tear jerker tactic by whining aloud about being unable to meet his mortgage because of his exercising “free speech”.

May I, as a taxpayer supporting Moore very generously for the rest of his life take understandable umbrage at his latest insult on my intelligence.

If after 25 years with salary and retirement commensurate to the GS level that you brag about; that is supervising hundreds, and with full Federal Health benefits unmatched anywhere in the world, as well as generous 401K matching, and on and on… you cannot meet your mortgage, my tears remain un shed for you, Steve.

If after being the recipient of all cited above, you now have mortgage problems you are more of a fool than your haughty, insolent, overbearing factually deficient media performances show us us you must be.

Although many FOAKers were busy tossing rose petals and palm fronds in Moore’s path,early on, even now, some of them are ready to join most Italians who want to toss rotten tomatoes at him.
As do I (and my wife)


Posted by bahia ben on 10/13/10 at 01:33 AM | #

Thank you Machine for a very timely and well documented article. This is exactly what is needed. If the reporters for all these US news channels can’t be bothered to do their jobs properly, then someone has to do it for them. The willingness of the networks to take at face value what they are told by those who have an axe to grind makes me despair for US democracy frankly. I think this article should be sent to each of the networks that interviewed Moore, to show them the level of misinformation they have now broadcast.

I am sorry that Steve has lost his job. But to be honest, if an employee of mine had this weak a grasp of a case before pronouncing on it publicly, then I would have cause for concern. It shows a lack of judgment to say the least.

Keep up the good work Machine, and thank you Peter for publishing this article. Excellent work.

Posted by TT on 10/13/10 at 02:02 AM | #

Moore provides us with an embarrassment of riches. Sometimes it helps just to consider a couple of stark issues which tell us so much.  What is you favourite Moore whopper?  My two:

That Amanda inflicted all three wounds, swapping knives (Machine’s point 2). Such arrant nonsense that no-one on the prosecution *ever* claimed nor any supporter of Amanda.  He made this up totally.  It’s patent nonsense.

That Amanda was “beaten” and her interrogation was “close to waterboarding” when the totality of Amanda’s claims were that she was clipped on the head?  He made it up. Utter rubbish.

Whatever your “confirmation bias” those two should cut through on their own evidence. The man doesn’t know the case and exaggerates beyond belief. 

Numerous other examples have been cited. How much does one need?

Posted by SomeAlibi on 10/13/10 at 02:11 AM | #

Hi Bahia Ben,

It should also be noted that recently in New York City, Canadian University of British Columbia journalism students had won an Emmy Award for Outstanding Investigative Journalism.

The University of British Columbia journalism students, mostly in their 20’s, beat out 2 CBS documentaries including a 48 Hours Mystery.

The misinformed 48 Hours story about Amanda Knox that convicted felon, Joe Halderman was nominated for did not win an Emmy.

Perhaps the media that has blatenly misreported on the Meredith Kercher murder case could along with Joe Halderman and Steve Moore learn a thing or two about investigative work from these smart Canadian investigative journalism students.

Posted by True North on 10/13/10 at 03:04 AM | #

Great work, Machine!  This short analysis could be handy for any journalists approached by Moore for an interview.  It cites sources for quick reference whenever one of the ten spurious claims arises (as they inevitably do).

Moore is typical of any conspiracy theorist in providing wild claims without any source for them.  Most good conspiracists actually read the material, though, and it’s evident that Moore has not read the Massei Report at all or he would never have made some of his claims because they are built on straw men rather than on anything discussed in the courtroom.

With the free time now afforded him by Pepperdine University, Moore ought to be able to brush up on the evidence before embarrassing himself or the Knox groupies any further.

Posted by Stilicho on 10/13/10 at 07:40 AM | #

Absolutely it’s evident he hasn’t read Massei Stilicho and just in case anyone is in any doubt about this: Steve Moore actually bragged that he won’t read it because of his evangelical certainty in Amanda’s innocence. Even where that is a true expression of his feelings as it obviously is, as I posted above, I have never met a law enforcement officer who would decline to read the basis of a case (or judgement) against someone *whom they were hoping to help on an appeal*.  I don’t know if the sheer enormity of this inexplicable position translates at all but it’s just *utterly* incomprehensible that an apparent legal or law enforcement professional would do that who is working towards a “successful” appeal.  It is yet another huge pointer to something extremely odd about Moore.

Posted by SomeAlibi on 10/13/10 at 09:50 AM | #

By Storm Roberts (Innai)

I’d just like to highlight something in SomeAlibi’s first (excellent) comment here - this is about basic facts and getting them right.  Basic facts.  Then we have the Massei Report and the discussions of the evidence and conclusions therein.

I have followed Meredith’s sad case and Mr. Moore manages to come up with three new lines that I have never heard before:

False claim 2 - Amanda inflicted all three wounds on Meredith’s neck;
False claim 4 - Guede left hair and fluid samples;  and,
False claim 10 - Amanda recanted her accusation against Mr. Lumumba as soon as she got some food.

These new (to me) points have no basis in fact whatsoever.

The other points Machine has rebutted I have seen before and, as Machine so clearly shows, these points have been dismissed by the careful work of the Italian police, Scientific Police and Judiciary culminating in the Massei Report - those who worked hard to translate the Massei Report for TJMK and PMF might be able to give an educated guess - if one were to translate “every iota of evidence” - the trial transcripts, the police and autopsy records (the evidence ran into over 10,000 pages and from Mr. Moore’s TV introduction it seems clear he must have had them all translated) - just how long would such a translation take and at what cost?  The listener who questioned Mr. Moore in this regard, as reported by bahia ben in his comment above, had a point…..no wonder Mr. Moore was flustered by the question.

I can only hope that Machine’s article is read by those who plan on interviewing Mr. Moore in the future - and that they fully acquaint themselves with the contents of the Massei Report so that they may conduct their interview from an informed standpoint.

Posted by Nolongeramember on 10/13/10 at 10:26 AM | #


If anyone suffered for free speech, it was Meredith. She spoke up for loyalty in relationships and probably said, “we have to talk” about her missing money. For this she was shoved into her bedroom, grabbed by the hair and snatched around, held while they squeezed her jaw, had her clothes ripped off and humiliated, then cut three times and left to die. Maybe Steve Moore can eventually find a dab of sympathy for her as he suffers for his free speech rights, (if that alone is what he’s in hot water for).

Posted by Hopeful on 10/13/10 at 04:17 PM | #

i’m actually more interested into why he was fired. my guess is that he will be successful in his suit against pepperdine….unfortunately, that will probably give more credibility to his version of things.


interesting also to note are the comments on this school paper article….all in support of him and amanda. the truth may be out there, but it’s not getting through!

Posted by mojo on 10/13/10 at 04:46 PM | #

Hi Innai. The translation of the documents in Meredith’s case is very tricky. It needs to be spot-on accurate and the Massei original is in a particular kind of Italian that is very precise and full of medical and forensic and legal terms which dont instantly translate into an indisputable English equivalent.

The PMF translation team consisted of about a dozen translators, almost all professional, highly trained in the two relevant languages (English and Italian), and in various cases (the autopsy and Italian law) highly knowledgeable in those areas as well. The final edit was done by Skeptical Bystander who in fact is a highly paid professional editor and translator with a good knowledge of Italian.

All of that team could pull in over $100,000 a year translating at that level in New York. Had the translation of the Massei Report been done professionally, using the United Nations fee rates for free-lancers with which I am familiar (I have sent dozens of reports to be translated into the various working language) would definitely have been upward of $100,000 and it would probably have exceeded $200,000.

The cost of all Steve Moore’s mammoth claims of translation would be over a million dollars, it would take many, many months, and the team needed would number at least a dozen.

Methinks (so what’s new?!) he is lying. If he is ever again interviewed (which we doubt) every interviewer should push him on this claim.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 10/13/10 at 04:52 PM | #

Hi mojo. You think Steve Moore will be successful in what sense?

As the Machine explains above, we have not set yet what we know and what we can conjecture that underlies his firing, but in many, many informed quarters Steve Moore has made himself deeply unpopular.

It is not in Pepperdine’s own interests - a very bad precedent - to simply roll over when blackmailed publicly by fired staff.

And posts like the Machine’s (which are widely read in the main media) are driving real Pepperdine staff and students to the Massei Report (none of those pro-Moore commenters you note are on the student role at Pepperdine) and that report will make them suspect he is as the Machine describes him.

And in Steve Moore’s latest remarks in the West Seattle Herald he is now sounding squeaky, afraid, and disconsolate. His family might be having strong buyers’ remorse. He lost what was for him a very good job, and his new possibilities (helicopter pilot - at his age?) look like mostly fantasies. 

If he pursues his suit against Pepperdine to the max, he is going to be made to look kluzty, egocentric and uncaring. And a man more than twice Amanda Knox’s age who seems obsessively attracted to Knox? All universities with a large co-ed (female) student population tend keep a very wary eye on that stuff. . 

Seriously, would he be likely to find a really good job after all this and much more comes out? My guess is that Steve Moore will blink. Pepperdine will probably pay him something - maybe fees for his kids - but otherwise, he has simply made himself into yet more FOA road-kill.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 10/13/10 at 05:06 PM | #

Great post The Machine! Should be sent to all the news outlets who carried him.

I love SomeAlibi’s comments as well as Bahia Ben’s.

I was totally thrown when I heard Steve Moore declare, “They should have someone far away from Perugia doing the forensic work, as far away as Rome.”

I almost fell off my chair. If one of those reporters had rebutted that one basic fact about the case (which is totally neutral re: Amanda’s guilt/innocence) it would expose this guy for the huckster that he is.

I just don’t know why the media even give air time to these cretins.

Anne Bremner = drunk driving
Steve Moore = fired from job
Joe Halderman = convicted extortionist
Judge what’s his name = reprimanded by judicial conduct board

Why are they putting these losers on the air? entertainment, money?

The sad fact is that this denial of reality has got to prolong the agony of pain for the Kercher family. Some courageous newsperson needs to broadcast the FACTS of this case to stop this horrible painful circus in it’s tracks. Maybe after the appeal fails, someone will have the guts to speak up on American TV and tell the truth. Any takers?

Posted by bedelia on 10/13/10 at 05:25 PM | #

It’s blatantly obvious to anyone familiar with this case that Moore has not read any of the evidence. Of course he hasn’t. I presume he has read what has been given to him by the PR agency and perhaps scanned some news items and has been briefed on how to give a series of “punchy messages” in his interviews, which are basically the false claims that Machine demolishes in his post.

If you look at his false claims, they are all simple, easy to digest soundbites designed to make the viewer think “those stupid foreign Italians! That’s ridiculous! What a travesty!”

The guy is clearly out looking for his 15 minutes of fame and probably some cash and influence too.

Why did nobody question him? Well, these shows are entertainment not intellectual current affairs shows and the presenters are entertainers, they are not going to spend hours reading the detailed Massei report and questioning/ challenging Moore on points of evidence. Really, they are probably briefed about the show a few minutes in advance with a one-page crib sheet, and that’s all the ‘research’ they do. This is pure entertainment, designed for an American audience. Let’s think now, what’s more entertaining to the typical American viewer:

1. The fantasy:  FBI agent (oooh exciting! Like in the movies!) giving some juicy soundbites (easy to digest! shock! horror!) about a poor American girl (that could be MY daughter) locked up by Foreigners (I always knew they were stupid, not like in Amerika!);


2.  The truth, which is that a woman and two men were unanimously found guilty of a brutal murder of a British (read: non-American) woman and sentenced to many years in prison.

Knox was convicted MONTHS ago, the only reason this is still in the news is because the PR agency is cleverly finding ways to milk it for entertainment value.

Posted by lilly on 10/13/10 at 06:30 PM | #

By Storm Roberts (Innai)


Thank you for highlighting the estimated costs of translation (also for detailing the need for highly qualified legal experts/scientific experts who are also linguists).  I highly doubt a normal private citizen would be looking at incurring that level of expense.  I actually doubt anyone has gone to the trouble of translating everything into English as it is the Italian that is important and the PMF/TJMK translators have translated the all important sentencing report and during the trial reporters like Ms. Nadeau and Ms. Vogt provided accurate details of the proceedings.

Former bad girl, I agree, it is the simple basic facts that Mr. Moore gets wrong that really undermine his position.  The claim you highlight as being totally neutral with regards to whether or not anyone is guilty should have rung alarm bells for interviewers.  It is such an easy point to have checked, getting it wrong looks so very bad. 

Certain points of evidence in any case are open to interpretation and discussion - this is what the court does during a trial - Mr. Moore should be aware of this.  The informed conclusions from the evidence are what make up the Massei Report, and those conclusions are the ones that matter. 

The Massei Report is the starting point for the appeals - taking the Massei Report and suggesting areas for review/possible re-interpretation is precisely what the two defence teams are going to be doing later this year; anyone who wants to assist from afar (in the media only!) needs to base any argument on the Massei Report and suggest an alternative explanation for the evidence - to do this the Massei Report needs to be read and absorbed and understood. Everything else is just hot air.

Posted by Nolongeramember on 10/13/10 at 06:37 PM | #

Imho SomeAlibi’s analysis is perfect.

Perhaps a translation of the two appeals, as filed by the lawyers, to make clear the several differences between them …. should be a good idea.

Posted by ncountryside on 10/13/10 at 07:11 PM | #

Imho SomeAlibi’s analysis is perfect.

Perhaps a translation of the two appeals, as filed by the lawyers, to make clear the several differences between them …. should be a good idea.

Posted by ncountryside on 10/13/10 at 07:14 PM | #

Two Comments after reading above excellent thoughts of others:

1) Moore’s actual radio interview with bobriversshow:
that I referenced above can be watched here:

The ‘squirming moment’ I mentioned is early in the vid.
Note also how Moore’s response indicated clearly to me that he had undoubtedly been forewarned about the viewer question by the host as a courtesy to Moore as his guest.

2) The Seattle FOAKer Judge referred to by bad girl above deserves some amplification.

Full title: King County Superior Court Judge   Michael Heavey (See also 8Jun and 30Jun TJMK)
Charges Brought by: Commission on Judicial Conduct State of Washington
Specific Charge:Lent prestige of judicial office to advance his own private interests
Significant Dates: (2010 unless noted)
Three questionable letters sent by Heavey: prior to Dec 2009
Charges filed:..............................08Jun
Heavey “agrees” with proposed punishment:....24Jul
Admonishment Order issued:................ 24Sep
Heavey issues ‘statement thru his Attorney:..25sep

Couple observations:

1) The letters and his use of his staff and stationery could have been deemed at best as ill advised and counterproductive, and at worst as pretty stupid by a barely passing first year law student.
2)Nice to be able to “agree” to get most lenient punishment possible, a month before “punishment” issued.A privilege rightfully and thankfully not provided to most felons, but afforded Heavey.
3) Effectiveness of close affiliation with and frequent particiption in activities of local Bar Association has been duly noted and commented on.
4) Although Heavey was not required to spend time in Jail as was very prominent FOAKer and fellow prominent Seattle Bar Association member, Bremner, many similarities in their activities and punishments stand out.
  4A) Both became FOAKers because of expressed sympathy for Hometown unanimously convicted murderess.
  4A1)Heavey cites his own daughter and Seattle Prep as other reasons).
  4A2)Heavey’s reasons now sound similar to Steve Moore’s family member motivation.
  4B)Both Heavey and Bremner on the *very day after agreeing to full guilt* quickly issued statements of their own spin of innocence an/or utterly inane excuses (even from Lawyers)for what they did, and in stark contrast to what they had just admitted to doing the previous day.

Maybe the water and/or the oft cited Seattle “quirkiness” infects everyone;  even the city’s ‘movers and shakers’.

Finally I cite the West Seattle Herald as one source.
This Hometown paper and frequent writer Steve Shay have been frequently described elsewhere as the: “Edda and Amanda Forever News”

May Meredith Rest in Peace
May her grieving Family someday soon enjoy the solace that so many elsewhere seem on such a crusade to deprive them of.


Posted by bahia ben on 10/13/10 at 08:25 PM | #

Heavey “knew” (okay, had actually met AK—how welldo most parents know their kids’ friends?). His darling daughter nagged and whined about the unfairness of it all. He caved. Bremner, Shay, Dempsey, Fischer. . .had any of them met or spent more than five minutes around her before being sucked into the cyclone?

I halfway feel that Knox has become an abstraction, a symbol for something greater: the Sanctity of White American Maidenhood, which must be defended against Foreign Fiends. They all seem to be waiting for the glory that will rain down upon them as her tireless heroes, when she once again sets her dainty feet upon American shores. I have a feeling they’ll lose interest as their forlorn hopes die on the vine during the upcoming appeals.

Quic, Steve; create a Diversion, while we bust Amanda out the back door! Oh, crap—which idiot let Boozy Bremner drive the getaway car???

Posted by mimi on 10/13/10 at 09:05 PM | #

Totally thrilled that Moore lost his job> Pepperdine is a private institution, very well thought of academically and in my opinion, the janitors are probably better educated than Steve Moore. When you have a job like this, you don’t go shooting yourself in the foot. I hope Amanda Knox was worth it Mr. Moore. I doubt that Pepperdine will settle, they have very high standards and I do not know how they ever hired him in the first place.

Posted by tigger34 on 10/13/10 at 09:31 PM | #

Could not agree more with this excellent article and all the great comments!  Stevie, Stevie, Stevie - how about an apology for the Kercher family now that the sorry reality of your situation is surely sinking in.

Posted by Fly By Night on 10/13/10 at 10:58 PM | #

Now run along, Master Moore or I’ll get out my camera and chemistry set.

Posted by Professor Snape on 10/14/10 at 06:44 AM | #

Innai wrote: “The Massei Report is the starting point for the appeals - taking the Massei Report and suggesting areas for review/possible re-interpretation is precisely what the two defence teams are going to be doing later this year; anyone who wants to assist from afar (in the media only!) needs to base any argument on the Massei Report and suggest an alternative explanation for the evidence - to do this the Massei Report needs to be read and absorbed and understood. Everything else is just hot air.”

That is so true, Innai. It is the one thing that Amanda’s supporters, especially Mr. Moore, are ignoring. Their efforts are totally in the wrong direction.

When they ignore or dismiss the double-DNA knife, the mixed DNA of Amanda and Meredith in five places in the cottage, including in the roommate Filomena’s room where the fake break-in was staged, Raffaele’s DNA on Meredith’s bra, as well as all the other devastating evidence against Amanda and Raffaele, it’s just a sign that they don’t get it. Luckily, the Italian court did “get it.”

Mr. Moore really should have kept his day job. It is pathetic to see another person ship-wreck their life on the SS Amanda. Totally ridiculous.

Posted by Earthling on 10/14/10 at 08:18 AM | #

Everyone knows the origin of the term “they drank the kool aid” right?

Tomorrow night (Friday night) there is to be a mass drinking of the FOA kool aid at a fundraiser for Amanda Knox’s defence fund in Columbus, Ohio.

A Heather Coy is the resident of Columbus who is proudly organizing this benefit. She got her information about Knox’s innocence from Oprah - and Steve Moore. She even quotes some Steve Moore’s misrepresentations which the Machine takes down as having convinced her.

Literally dozens are expected to attend, many of them flying in from Seattle. Welcome to Xenophobialand, Heather Coy. Columbus’s Italian Americans must be very proud of you.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 10/14/10 at 01:17 PM | #

Peter, all i/we have to go on are steve moore’s stated reasons as to what he was told by pepperdine. if the case is as he says, then he will win unfair dismissal. however, as we have seen in the case could be otherwise.

pepperdine has declined comment. unless they can show a paper trail of warnings, i suspect they will either settle to make this go away or if they foolishly pursue this in the court, he will win.

if he was warned, i think he is smart enough to have “set them up” for a suit. this is not about meredith’s case in a legal sense it’s about employment law.

Posted by mojo on 10/14/10 at 01:59 PM | #

I see your point, mojo. On the other hand, I’m not sure there’s any limit to the stupidity of this guy.

Posted by Janus on 10/14/10 at 02:04 PM | #

Hi Janus. Agreed. Certainly Steve Moore himself doesnt seem to think he was smart enough to set Pepperdine up for a suit as mojo suggests. He rejected what we understand was a good offer and is despondent about finding another job that pays the same.

Also from what we understand Steve Moore would probably only bring more grief on himself to pursue his suit beyond a simple payoff which, as I already remarked to mojo, he will probably get. He is becoming very isolated and is unlikely to be seen again on national TV.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 10/14/10 at 02:45 PM | #

By Storm Roberts (Innai)


What you refer to as “kool aid” is what I would call having a “Jonestown mind”...it is so distastful to see people basing events on tv interviews such as Mr. Moore’s and the Oprah show. 

Meredith Kercher.  The victim of an horrific murder. She is who people should be focussing on. I’m actually quite angry that people are holding events to raise funds for someone convicted in a court of law of this beautiful young lady’s murder. Time to reconsider I would hope - hand out copies of the Massei Report at the door and donate any proceeds to a worthwhile charity in honour of Meredith.

Posted by Nolongeramember on 10/14/10 at 02:48 PM | #

Hi Innai. This informed anonymous comment was posted below Steve Shay’s gushy reporting of this fundraiser on the West Seattle Herald.


Hey Seattle. I’m glad that you all like to fundraise and help people who need it. May I make a suggestion? Perhaps instead of giving your money to a convicted sex killer, perhaps you might like to send some cash to the victim’s family, the Kerchers.

Something that the Knox family don’t tell you is that the Kercher’s have to pay for their lawyer in Italy, it is not given by the state. They have to pay for their own flights to Italy, granted the UK is nearer to Italy than the USA.

They have to pay for the sentencing and other documents produced by the courts to be translated into English so they can understand the brutality unleashed upon their poor daughter.

They have to get through every single day knowing that no appeal judge or law court is going to bring back their daughter (Curt Knox says his pain is deeper than Arline Kercher’s, I beg to differ).

For the record, they have studied the evidence, including all of the defence submissions and they believe Amanda Knox to be guilty (Yes you heard me, the Kercher family are so called guilters too). They support the sentence given to all three killers and support the reasoning behind them.

If you have an ounce of decency, you’ll put your wallets away for Amanda Knox and send your hard earned dollars to the family of Meredith Kercher. They wouldn’t solicit these donations themselves but I can’t stand by and watch people fundraise for a woman who brutally raped tortured and murdered her so called friend.

There is a mountain of evidence against Amanda, don’t let a few crocodile tears on Oprah blind you from the truth. Send your donations via John Kercher’s employer at:Daily Mirror, 1 Canada Square Canary Wharf, London E14 5AP.

As I have said, I have no connection to the Kercher family, I just cannot abide people compounding their endless suffering by supporting Amanda Knox.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 10/14/10 at 02:58 PM | #

What a BRILLIANT summarization of, for want of a better word, This * SELF AGGRANDIZER*. You have absolutely nailed this *Wannabe*, Machine.My personal feeling about this loser? One Mo(o)re low life on the food chain.This has become *The Mary Tyler Moore* ( OOPS) Steve Moore Show, and he doesn’t give a whit, about riding on the tail of misfortune, to enrich himself.He desperately needs a PR firm…First thing, right off the bat..DON’T do a photo shoot with BARE FEET!! He wants to involve himself with a case in Italy? Start off by learning how important *BELLA FIGURA* means,ferchrissakes!!!!!!

Posted by capealadin on 10/14/10 at 04:54 PM | #

By Storm Roberts (Innai)


Very interesting comment you found.  I couldn’t say with any certainty what Meredith’s family have to pay for in Italy; I am sure that they have incurred considerable financial costs but next to the pain of losing a daughter, a sister such costs pale.

The commenter highlights the point that seems to not register with so many: The victim’s name is Meredith Kercher and nothing can bring her back to her family.

Posted by Nolongeramember on 10/14/10 at 05:49 PM | #

Mojo, I have to disagree. Pepperdine , surely have lawyers on retainer, and will have checked with them, re any ramifications. Steve Moore has obviously acted adversely as to the definition of his employment. Pepperdine, I feel, will fight this, as Steve Moore has chosen to air this in the Media. His only hope, as I see it, is to hope The Donald will offer him a job. BTW, Where is The Trumpet? He’s been awfully quiet, as of late.

Posted by capealadin on 10/14/10 at 06:35 PM | #

BTW, Hello Everyone. I’m Cape.

Posted by capealadin on 10/14/10 at 06:38 PM | #

Frank Shiers from Kiro FM has written the following e-mail:

“Let me see. An anonymous person called The Machine takes the Italian claims and the trial transcript and refutes Steve Moore. Very compelling. I can’t believe I was so easily duped.”

He’s not the only one who can’t believe he was so easily duped.

Posted by The Machine on 10/14/10 at 09:56 PM | #

By Storm Roberts (Innai)


I am glad to hear that Mr. Shiers has read your post and finds it compelling. I hope the others who have interviewed Mr. Moore also read your work (and the Massei Report) and discover the solid facts and evidence in this case.

I respect Mr. Shiers for stepping forward with that email.

Posted by Nolongeramember on 10/14/10 at 10:05 PM | #

Hi Innai,

Frank Shiers was being sarcastic. I don’t think he has the courage or integrity to specifically address the numerous false claims that Steve Moore has made. He’d rather hide behind sarcasm.

Posted by The Machine on 10/14/10 at 10:22 PM | #

By Storm Roberts (Innai)

Previous comment rescinded.

And there was me thinking someone was finally having the courage to admit they’d made a mistake.  Always the optimist, me.

Posted by Nolongeramember on 10/14/10 at 11:04 PM | #

I highly doubt that Mr Shiers has actually read the Machine’s post, because he doesn’t seem to realize that the Massei Report is neither the “Italian claims” (how bigoted—what difference does the nationality make?) nor the “trial transcript.” The fact that the writer “the Machine” is posting anonymously (as most people do) has nothing whatsoever to do with the validity of the Machine’s claims. Mr Shiers doesn’t seem able to evaluate the validity of claims on their own worth. He’d rather go by who wrote/said them… and if it was some supposedly “brilliant” (cough*cough*) former G-man (Moore) or Oprah, he’ll buy it, hook line & sinker.

Posted by Earthling on 10/14/10 at 11:26 PM | #

Yesterday, the world witnessed what was compared to a miracle, the rescue of 33 Chilean miners who were entombed far beneath the earth for 70 days.

Throughout this ordeal all of the miner’s families had hope that their loved ones would return safely. For all of those families their hope became a reality.

Unlike those Chilean families, the family of Meredith Kercher have no hope in ever seeing their daughter being returned to them.

The immorality exemplified by Steve Moore, the Knox & Mellas clans, and all the other Friends of Amanda supporters who have attempted to make themselves appear as victims in the Meredith Kercher case is beyond reproach.

Make no mistake, the only true victims are and will always remain Meredith Kercher and her family.

Posted by True North on 10/15/10 at 04:58 AM | #

I really don’t see Pepperdine settling with him. These places have lawyers on salary to deal with just this kind of thing. And clauses in employment contracts to cover just this sort of behavior.

I don’t think they’d have to provide a paper trail showing their specific demands, because it is most likely covered under general expectations of professional behavior. Quite simply his behavior was unprofessional and reflected poorly on his employer; they requested he cease, and he did not.

They are a private institution, and he did not have a union job - I don’t see any kind of claim here. His case may simply be meant as a bluff to extort money in parting. But they already offered him money to go quietly, but he rejected it, so I doubt they will pay anything now that he’s already made a fuss.

As has been mentioned, Moore has his FBI retirement, so he’s not left destitute. But he has a stay-at-home wife (as per her Facebook), just lost a great job, and may have a hard time finding a similar cushy position.

Companies don’t generally like hiring people who are in the middle of suing their last employer, and I doubt Pepperdine will exactly recommend him. And whatever connections helped him to the Pepperdine job must be feeling a bit red-faced about his behavior at this point.

I’m not sure how much room there is on the Amanda Gravy Train either: there are only so many slots for PR appearances, and I suspect the family get first dibs. Am thinking this one looks like Instant Karma.

Posted by lauowolf on 10/17/10 at 01:38 AM | #

First off, I think the title of “FBI” agent is way overrated and obviously Amanda’s people are so impressed with it that even an “ex” FBI agent is someone they feel holds the title and credibility that will help their case.

Despite the dramatic title that has been romanticized over the years by the US media, in all reality, most agents are involved in very mundane tasks with the majority-especially after 9/11, being employment background checks for security clearances and follow ups on listed suspects. There is very little “sleuth” work involved, as they are mostly involved in apprehending individuals so they can be put on trial. And the pay is nothing that great either.

Steve Moore is someone who has what is referred to as “security guard” syndrome in that he feels he has powers (legal and intellectual) that exceed his actual job description.

Amanda’s people were very stupid and or desperate to accept his “services” which, in light of his firing from Pepperdine University with his latest unimpressive (ex) title of deputy director of Public Safety further stresses his lack of credibility and makes people question the real reason why he no longer works for the FBI.

Check out this article from a Seattle based news site:  http://www.westseattleherald.com/2010/09/29/news/former-fbi-agent-steve-moore-fired-speaking-out-a

Notice in the title of the article and in the caption of the photo at top he is referred to as “former FBI agent”, however, in the opening paragraph, it starts off, “FBI agent, Steve Moore…”  Accident? I tend to wonder.

I also tend to wonder if it was an “accident” that after submitting my comment it was immediately flagged as spam and it stated if this was in error to please forward the comment to the site administrator. Perhaps it picked up on some key words that recognized my comment was not pro Amanda Knox.

Not surprising if this was the case.

Posted by Kazwell on 10/18/10 at 09:06 AM | #

By Storm Roberts (Innai)

I think Lauowolf has a point - over the last decade employment legislation has become a minefield resulting in the need for professional human resources departments and lawyers who work in the field.  And this is a worldwide phenomenon.  My last employment contract topped 50 pages and was accompanied by three booklets containing clauses re: confidentiallity etc that were standard for all employees.

I am sure Mr. Moore had a written contract and I am sure his employers had professional HR and legal experts who dealt with the various aspects of his dismissal. 

“Ex-FBI agent” is to me immaterial - it doesn’t mean anything.  Work-wise each of us is only as good as our latest endeavour - Mr. Moore’s latest endeavour has resulted in discomfort for the legal team of the person he is trying to help and has inflicted further pain on the long suffering family of the innocent victim of a horrendous murder - Meredith Kercher.  I hardly think that is something of which anyone would be proud.

Posted by Nolongeramember on 10/19/10 at 11:06 AM | #

Katzwell wrote:  “I also tend to wonder if it was an “accident” that after submitting my comment it was immediately flagged as spam and it stated if this was in error to please forward the comment to the site administrator. Perhaps it picked up on some key words that recognized my comment was not pro Amanda Knox.  Not surprising if this was the case.”

Interesting you say that. I have been trying to leave comments at the westseattleherald and since their site was updated, all my comments are “recognised as spam”. I didn’t use any rude language, links etc., which left me wondering how it identified my comment as “spam”. I rather believe they have an IP filter. I tried to leave three different comments, all without success. It looks to me that I was banned from writing there.

If I am right, than any tool that cloaks your IP address will help to post a comment again, together with a new email address.

Posted by Nell on 10/21/10 at 01:48 AM | #

The Westseattle Herald has updated the comment section under its articles once again. Now all former comments have been completely eliminated.

Take for example the article Amanda Knox motivation document ‘first English translation?’. Skeptical Bystander published there a comment early on, informing Steve Shay that PMF never claimed it was the “first” translation, but the first one made publicly available. I always wondered why Steve Shay never corrected his article accordingly.

He wrote: “While the West Seattle Herald acknowledges the translation as one English translation, we are currently looking into the validity of that blog’s claim that until now this document has not been translated in English.”.

Posted by Nell on 10/22/10 at 10:08 AM | #


Steve Moore reminds me of the Jim Phelps character in “Mission Impossible” movie with Tom Cruise. Phelps was played by Jon Voight.

Posted by Hopeful on 11/14/10 at 10:41 PM | #


Steve Moore says he was an instructor in Thailand. He calls Mignini’s case “a house of cards” and as usual insults Mignini, Giobbi and Stefanoni, while paying lipservice to “the good, competent law enforcement officers that are typical of Italy”.

This interview with Moore can be found here.

Moore said he had to leave Pepperdine because “I knew too much to walk away” (from the Knox case). He feels he did the right thing quitting his job at Pepperdine. “I am terribly sorry for the effect it has had on my family, but they agree with me. An unforeseen consequence of this decision is the further bonding of my family. My wife and I and my kids and I get to spend much more time with each other and we support each other. I find great comfort with them. To misquote ‘A Tale of Two Cities’....“it is the best of times, it is the worst of times”.

When asked his first interest in the Knox case, Moore mentions the TV documentary he saw in November 2009. Moore says he was 51 years old at the time and had spent “25 years of my life as an FBI agent. Half my life! My father was an FBI agent. There is an assumption of good faith among law enforcement officers…—even brother and sister officers from other countries. You root for the ‘good guys’.”

Of his visit with the Knox family, Moore said he “had no deep personal conversation with them. But on the surface they appeared brave, resilient and not in the least vindictive. There is frustration and disbelief at what has happened, but unity…and… resolve to bring Amanda home.”

Moore said Biscotti has called for his arrest should he enter Perugia, but he has had no real threats of arrest.

The reference to “Tale of Two Cities” is suggestive. Book the First: Recalled to Life. Moore must have felt pretty dead at Pepperdine. Maybe Moore sees himself as the guillotined Sydney Carton redeeming himself by martyrdom for Charles Darnay. Last line of the book is, “It is a far far better thing I do, than I have ever done; it is a far far better rest… I go to, than I have ever known.”

Moore has the martyr-for-Amanda syndrome. I guess Moore equates the living death of Dr. Manette’s incarceration in the Bastille with Amanda’s incarceration, and his own at Pepperdine. (it wasn’t Pepperdine’s fault)

Britain never did succumb to a similar French revolution. Thomas Carlyle says revolution is history’s cycle of destruction and resurrection. Resurrection is the theme of “Tale of Two Cities.”

Wikipedia says a Freudian interpretation of Dickens’ novel is that it “exalts the British superego over the French id.” Although Sydney Carton’s final act of martyrdom is “masochistic and superego driven, it is nonetheless an ecstatic union with the subconscious.” 

At one point in “Tale”, Charles Darnay is on trial for treason at the Old Bailey.

As he stands beside the guillotine with moments to live, Carton the martyr who exchanged places with his look-alike and better version of himself, Charles Darnay, is making up for his dissipated lifestyle. He says prophetically that many of the revolutionaries including The Vengeance will be sent to the guillotine themselves and that the young couple he is saving will name a baby son after him.

It’s heady stuff. Aren’t we all looking for a cause? I would totally envy Moore his “resurrection” if I didn’t think he was on the wrong track.

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