Subtitled In English, Videos Of All Of The RAI Rudy Guede Interview Start Here

The scene-changing Rudy Guede interview on the government owned Italian network RAI, with subtitles throughout.

Please tell us of technical problems? At the end of each video there SHOULD be a link to the next.

If they dont show up, here are all the direct links.  One and Two and Three and Four and Five and Six and Seven and Eight and Nine and Ten and Eleven. That’s it.

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Reposted here for David Mulhern:

I’ve just watched the full video of Guede’s interview with Eric Paroissien’s subtitles. Well worth watching for anyone who hasn’t seen it yet. Some thoughts:

1) Guede a comes across to me as truthful when he’s talking about his childhood. He is calm and measured in his tone and relaxed in his body language.

2) As Soon as he starts describing Meredith and his alleged relationship with her, his mask drops. His voice goes up an octave and he becomes quite animated. Very clearly indeed lying through his teeth.

3) Unless I’m mistaken he even contradicts himself before the end regarding how he gained entry to the cottage. At the start he says he had a date arranged and he turned up and was let in. Later he appears to suggest he entered together with Meredith. Might just be something lost in translation I suppose, some of it is quite flowery to say the least. Knox let him in, there is no doubt about that at all.

4) It is clear that elements of his story are true. He seems to perform best when he’s telling the truth and he appears calm when he’s doing so. I can just about believe he perhaps heard Meredith’s scream from the bathroom but I think he reacted quickly to it and instead of helping her, he joined in.

The interviewer annoyed me in the first half. She was almost flirting with him and adopting a deferential attitude towards him and his story. She was much better in the second half where she attacked his inconsistencies. I think actually she did a very good job, most likely she was just putting him at his ease early on knowing he would show himself to be the liar that he is later on. Clever technique I think.

Anyway, you’ll notice that she uses a fairly thick folder to go through various aspects with Guede and it’s obvious that there were many more hours of interview material which Guede’s lawyers have clearly had editorial control over. I strongly suspect she asked some very pertinent questions and either got incriminating answers that Guede’s lawyers wouldn’t let pass or ridiculous answers that just showed him for the liar that he is, hence his lawyers blocked again.

I would have asked him one simple question to expose his lie about him going to see Meredith on a “date” arranged the previous night. Why would any man knowing he was going to meet a beautiful girl like Meredith for a date at her home and with romance on his mind, go for a spicy kebab before he went there?

I’ve had many kebabs and they are the food of drunk people, only ever purchased after a night’s over indulging. I’ve never heard of anyone eating them other than late at night drunk and certainly never shortly before a date. The taste left in your mouth after a kebab is horrendous. Nobody but nobody would have one sober before a date. Just wouldn’t happen.

There are many questions that could be asked of Guede and I do hope some of the footage that clearly ended up being edited out finds its way into the public domain some day. I’m fairly sure the interviewer put him on the spot much more than was shown.

Although I was dismayed at his cowardice in not coming clean before I watched this video, having seen it now, I’m satisfied that it does indeed present a major headache for Knox and Sollecito. For that we can be truly thankful.

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Posted by Peter Quennell on 02/04/16 at 06:51 PM | #

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Is it a crime to knowingly swear out a false complaint, or does it not apply to lawyers?

Hello David,

You mentioned the part about the kebob not ringing true at all.  Nobody who is thinking would do it?!  Good catch on that one.  Knox’s story about taking her earrings out to clean them (to explain her blood) also has a false ring to it.

As a woman who also went on a piercing spree at that age - 11 done when I was 19/20, Knox’s story is totally unbelievable.  When you do piercings, you have 4 immediate concerns:

(1) Infection, obviously

(2) The holes closing over

(3) The skin healing around the earring

(4) Pain

You don’t take them out at all for at least 6 weeks for lobe piercings—longer for other areas.  You take a small cloth or tissue and clean around them (peroxide works best), and let it sink in.

Since you don’t want the flesh healing over top of the earrings, you turn (studs), or rotate (rings).  But you do this wet, usually in the shower, to avoid ripping open any skin that has started healing over.

And you don’t take them out.  It hurts, and is far too easy for the hole to close over.

Anyone who has done this would know about piercing aftercare.  This includes most women and some men, and I would have called her on this.

So I call total B.S. on the earring story.

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Posted by Peter Quennell on 02/04/16 at 07:01 PM | #

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Ergon, thanks for the link. Though part 8 appears to be missing.

Guede seems mostly genuine but he’s had years to get a story straight. 

I also agree with DM about the kebab.  Not before a date.

If, whilst in the loo, he heard arguing, isn’t it more likely he would have removed his headphones to listen in? Especially as Guede claims that Meredith told him about what she was like before (part 5, 3 minutes).

I also think he is too calm given what he is accused of.  Surely he would be much more assertive, adamant and rightly angry about his situation given his claims that he is innocent.

Yes he should have done more to save Meredith but if he didn’t do it he wouldn’t deserve to be sentenced as he has.  This was his opportunity and I wasn’t convinced.

The clip of the Rafffaele Sollecito where he says that “justice has been served”; to me only a guilty party who wanted to shift blame would say that.

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Posted by Peter Quennell on 02/04/16 at 07:02 PM | #

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@davidmulhern, the kebab incident and the “date”. It angers me to hear Rudy lie about having a date with Meredith. She was involved at the time with Silenzi. She was watering plants for him, he was returning in a day or two.

She had earlier told Amanda that she believed in being loyal to a guy until you officially break up with him, which she had not done with Silenzi.

Meredith had probably noticed Rudy’s aggressive behavior to women in the clubs and would reject his pushy cloying nuisance, detecting in it a possible hazard and certainly bad manners.

Rudy said in the interview with Leosini that he liked both Knox and Meredith, that he had his eye on both females hoping for chances. I think Meredith would have realized this immediately. She would have disliked being some flaky flirt’s Plan B.

Also, in Leosini interview Rudy said he had met Knox in early September, it seems at Le Chic? That means he had a good bit of time to get to know Knox before November 1st, 2007. If that is correct Meredith would probably steer clear of anybody that Knox had brought onto the scene, after she learned what Knox was all about. Knox had implied a competition between them for males when she said, “I like Silenzi, but you can have him,” or something to that effect to Meredith. No doubt she resented such pretentious condescenscion from a slut.

The fact that Guede didn’t have a job nor was he in school would be a red flag to a sensible woman like Meredith.

Guede is just ego tripping with his lie that Meredith wanted to date him.

It works as a flimsy excuse for why he was at the murder scene and also works for him to now show contempt for Knox (as if he had chosen Meredith over her for a love interest) and mainly the date is out of character with what we know of Meredith.

It is the height of cheekiness and insult to the woman he helped put in her grave, however much he may honestly regret her death nowadays. It is Guede’s wishful thinking turned into believing his own lies and a way to taunt RS and AK…as he pretends to have been the odd good guy of the three, a victim of their madness, at worst a coward, and forever attached to the untouchable beauty Meredith whose death renders her distant and unapproachable now by anyone else, as his mother is distant in Africa. This is my guess. He is defending himself with the crudest of egotism.

The early part of interview when Guede mentions his father taking girlfriends and neglecting him, where Guede says he felt he was a “burden” to him and his girlfriends having their alone time together, was truly heartbreaking. Guede’s pain was very real, it was pitiful and painful and honest. I blame the shortsighted and selfish Roger Guede for his son’s destruction.

I think the kebab incident did occur sometime in Rudy’s life, maybe even at the cottage on the murder night but before the fight. He says the song by L’il Bow Wow was ingrained in his memory because of the scream and the frightening events immediately after, that he was surprised the scream could penetrate the loud music and the earphones. That sounds honest, although he might have been listening to music in the kitchen and not the bathroom.

He may have rushed out (from kitchen, living room, or bathroom) to a scream but was urged to join the fracas by his two hosts, namely RS and AK. Meredith was NOT his host.

Guede may have had stomach problems due to stress, and the incident of having once fallen asleep on the boys’ toilet downstairs makes me think he felt safer hidden in a private bathroom than anywhere else in a house. Some say he fell asleep like that due to drug intake, a real possibility.

No way did Meredith have a date with Rudy Guede.

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Posted by Peter Quennell on 02/04/16 at 07:03 PM | #

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Hi, Hopeful, there’s an interesting scene in the OJ Simpson TV series premiere I saw. Cuba Gooding Jr. the actor playing OJ Simpson fails the polygraph. Remember how Knox when asked if she’d take one, said sure?

She never did, of course. Yet she is such a bundle of twitches when interviewed about the murder. Of course body language can be interpreted many ways, but when the subject consistently displays the same behaviour when difficult questions come up you detect meaning within the pattern. The same with Guede, you can tell when he’s lying, when he says why he ran away, when he says he had a date..

Re: the kebab before the ‘date’. There wasn’t a date, except most likely with Knox telling him to meet her there, either deliver drugs or ‘party’. It’s possible he was let in by Meredith (since she knew him from the boys downstairs) to wait for AK and in that time he asked for a drink. I know from experience that any acid drink after a meat meal is enough to upset my stomach. That’s why he’d have been in the toilet at some point that evening.

I’m sure RG had some legal advice before the interview, but not from Biscotti and Gentile. He’d have planned this since after the verdict last March, and approached others. Biscotti and co. got him the best deal they could, but they’re criminal lawyers, not qualified, and perhaps there would be a conflict in asking for a retrial. So they parted ways.

In that regard, the Kerchers might, if they want to review their options and take this further, have to get opinions from more than one legal expert. With all respect to Maresca and the excellent job he did representing the Kerchers, requesting a review of the acquittal and claiming damages might also, require a different, more qualified lawyer.

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Posted by Peter Quennell on 02/04/16 at 07:04 PM | #

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Hi, davidmulhern and DavidB, the finished video will be great.

There also are stop frame captures as story board at Eric’s site which, combined with subtitles, show Guede’s shifting body language. Updates posted at NET.

Yes there was a problem with video#8 due to it being flagged by the FOA for ‘disturbing images’ but is now back up on You Tube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgAWBdAtE28

On the Daily Motion site, you can reset the Age Tracker (Menu function) to OFF so you can view all the videos.

Waiting with anticipation for the full video, which Peter tells us will be next. [Its here!]

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Posted by Peter Quennell on 02/04/16 at 07:06 PM | #

Just watched the eighth and last part of the video. Strange how seeing the video from Meredith’s room can still churn my stomach and engender real feelings of anger towards the gruesome threesome who deigned to end her life for absolutely no good reason whatsoever.

I’d hoped Guede would be tackled on his Skype call to Giacomo where he said “Amanda wasn’t there” but, despite her quizzing him on the call generally, sadly it wasn’t to be.

As I said earlier though, I have strong suspicions that this might be one of the items that his lawyers have made sure didn’t make the final edit. It’s such an obvious thing to ask him when they’re on that very subject that I can’t believe any journalist worth their salt wouldn’t have asked it.

I guess we’ll have to wait a bit longer until more of the story drips out. Guede remains an utter scumbag regardless.

Posted by davidmulhern on 02/04/16 at 10:43 PM | #

Going by what Guede said, (part 5), surely Meredith would have called out Guede’s name when she was being attacked?
And Guede, if you respected Meredith and you heard her arguing, wouldn’t you have removed your headphones??

Posted by DavidB on 02/05/16 at 03:15 AM | #

Hi David & David

Good points. We should do a masterlist of all the points vital to correctly calibrating Rudy Guede. Do please keep listing. Catnip is very close to a full translation of the January 2009 Micheli Report (Micheli was the original correct calibrator of all three and Italy has never been persuaded differently).

But Guede isnt as far as we can see fooling many Italians. They KNOW he did more than meet a (very tired) Meredith Kercher intent on homework and an early night, or simply sit on the toilet for 10 minutes while the real killers rocketed in and out.

The center of gravity of Italian interest is said to be as summarised in the Breaking News box at the top now, along with a strong desire to stick it to the little-respected and mediocre lawyer Bongiorno.

Breaking news. Top law firms eager to help Guede pro-bono with intention to leave the final hierarchy of guilt (1) Knox (2) Sollecito (3) Guede, as per Italian perceptions unshaken since the Micheli court findings. Report follows.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 02/05/16 at 01:53 PM | #

What I said: “Micheli was the original correct calibrator of all three”

Actually, he was the 10th. He went along with Judges Matteini, the Riciarelli three, and the Gemmeli five, a total of nine previous judges.

They all concluded the same way, based solely on the hard evidence and police statements: Knox was the pack leader, possibly unhinged and/or on drugs.

This is universally ignored or unknown-to the Knox apologists.

There is no sign at all that a manic Dr Mignini was driving the bus to help himself against a rogue prosecutor and rogue judge in Florence.

But they ignore that too of course.

For Fischer & Pruett & co to get to their ludicrous position, they have to ignore complete oceans of hard facts. So much for a team with no lawyers which doesnt speak Italian.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 02/05/16 at 02:28 PM | #

Hi davidmulhern

“Just watched the eighth and last part of the video.”

Did you mean to say eighth? We posted eleven.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 02/05/16 at 04:03 PM | #

Guede appears to be making a bit of a comeback in public opinion. From a still open poll at http://www.liberoquotidiano.it/sondaggi/sondaggi/11875455/Nello-scontro-tra-Rudy-Guede-e.html  70% support him, vs. 30% Sollecito.

Posted by Ergon on 02/05/16 at 08:22 PM | #

I was struck by the glaring parallels of Amanda Knox and Rafael Sollecito murdering Meredith Kercher and David Eisenhaur and Natalie Keepers who murdering Nicole Lovell in Virginia.

If you substitute the theft of rent money by Knox in order to buy drugs and the cover up of an affair between a minor (Lovell) with David Eisenhaur the similarities only begin right there since there are so many others the least of which is the desire to get away with it.

The driving factor here is that both Knox and Natalie Keepers are the driving force in the control of the two weaker males, that being Sollecito and Eisenhaur. Guede is the fall guy of course and in that his anger will not diminish until he tells the truth.

As we have always said the truth will eventually and completely come out. I have no doubt that both the Knox families and the Sollecito families have offered Guede blood money in order to shut him up and of course when that didn’t work Bongniorno arranged to have Guede beaten up in jail.

This course of action among others, has only reinforced Guede’s motivation to really tell the truth. His only dilemma is to try to tell only as much as he can without implicating himself further.

The fact that there are those legal firms who are willing to act on his behalf pro-bono is a huge plus.

There will come a time when both Amanda Knox and Natalie Keepers will claim that it was all the fault of the other two, ie Sollecito and Eisenhaur. There enough blame to go round of course but it is my fervent wish that these murdering slime and those who enable killers such as this be eradicated and permanently removed from the human race.

Posted by Grahame Rhodes on 02/05/16 at 08:54 PM | #

As an added thought. Knox believes that being in Seattle and being an American that she is safe. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Posted by Grahame Rhodes on 02/05/16 at 08:56 PM | #

RUDY GUEDE’S RESPONSE TO RAFFAELE SOLLECITO http://www.perugiamurderfile.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=461&p=130139#p130139

Posted by Ergon on 02/05/16 at 11:12 PM | #

Hi Ergon

So Guede’s de facto press office at Viterbo prison hit back hard against some claims Sollecito made against him. All fear seems to have gone out the window. We do look forward to that translation.

We are waiting for a more complete picture before posting, but Guede does have heavyweight help. Many Italians have some sympathy for him and very few for RS who seems to have jacked mistrust of himself to astronomic levels.

Knox’s silence is very telling. The PR hits a wall hard.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 02/06/16 at 02:20 AM | #

Indeed, RS each TV appearance has backfired on him, Peter. In this online (and still open, so do vote! 😊 at Libero Quotidiano http://www.liberoquotidiano.it/sondaggi/sondaggi/11875455/Nello-scontro-tra-Rudy-Guede-e.html the question In the clash between Rudy Guede and Raffaele Sollecito who do you support? it’s 71% RG, 29% RS.

Posted by Ergon on 02/06/16 at 05:41 AM | #

Ergon, I voted for Rudy even though he and RS both lie about their involvement.  There is something about RS’s smirking brat psycho face persona that I find cloying as in his latest interview when he pontificated that Rudy’s judgment only says that there might be others and that maybe we should look for them not that they necessarily exist.  Rudy’s judgment says they exist.  Rudy was right to call RS an idiot.

Posted by JohnQ on 02/07/16 at 01:37 PM | #

According to a recent article Sollecito is going to “Launch” his “Memories” website tomorrow (February 8th).

Where is he going to do this? Well, like any self respecting shalebrity, it will be in San Remo!

If you are not familiar with this annual Italian competition music fest, (which goes on for days and days, and seems like months), you are fortunate. With any luck Sollecito’s “Launch” will be drowned out by the noise or a juicy scandal!

Posted by Sallyoo on 02/07/16 at 05:57 PM | #

Thanks Pete, you were quite right, I had only watched up to video 8. I was originally watching them from another site which had suggested there were only 8 but I hadn’t noticed you had clearly stated there were 11. I couldn’t get number 11 to play incidentally. I tried searching on YouTube for it too but had the same problem. Just a message saying “this video is unavailable”.

It was just more of the same with Guede lying his rear end off but it was good to see him trying to contain his anger against AK and RS, particularly RS. His branding of RS as an idiot and what seemed to me like almost goading RS to sue him was enjoyable to say the least.

I just voted for Guede on the link you provided. Sollecito has improved his position slightly but is still way down on 32% with Guede on 68%. This must eat away at RS and can’t help his mental state I don’t think. Excellent.

Mind you, I still felt unclean even pressing a button for Guede. I view it not so much as voting FOR Guede, as voting for the lesser of two evils. A slightly lesser murdering scumbag remains a murdering scumbag.

I’m very encouraged by the possibility of some pro bono counsel for Guede. We haven’t seen the last act of this farce played just yet. This is tremendous news.

Posted by davidmulhern on 02/07/16 at 09:39 PM | #

There are a couple of things in the videos. Guede is angry but, above that, there is an utter contempt for Sollecito. He has no fear of him and is telling Sollecito to be afraid of him. Guede fairly quickly announced new ROME lawyers prepared to act for him, and the Viterbo Centre quickly published rebuttals to Sollecito’s comments on the interview. It’s being made plain to Sollecito that he needs to stop spinning lies to the public - a lesson long overdue - because he will be taken to task by the Viterbo Centre on Guede’s behalf. The other thing Guede has laid the groundwork for is his desire to return to his old neighbourhood in Italy upon release. That he is Italian in his own mind and has no connection to a place he left as a five year old. If repatriation now raises its head, the public are likely to attribute that to Sollecito interference and they will take another unwanted hit. Don’t know what to make of the Knox non-reaction, I think her nemesis is a long, long way off yet.

Posted by YorkshireLass on 02/08/16 at 03:04 AM | #

Sallyoo reports that Raffaele Sollecito’s business the Memories App portal to connect with deceased individuals appears ready to make its start this Tuesday at the San Remo Festival.

This would be the business idea for which he received a regional grant of 66,000 Euros http://blog.startupitalia.eu/79644-20151102-sollecito-startup-regione-puglia Source: Blog Italia Start Up-Puglia region.

According to the article, he’s hired two interns, (I only saw one 😊 and appears to have two business addresses, one in Giovinazzo and the other in Verona, though I could only find one business address in Google.It and the Yellow Pages http://www.paginegialle.it/villafranca-di-verona-vr/memoires Pagine Gialle.

His offices are located in rooming houses he and Vanessa inherited from their mother, though he claimed to have sold his to pay his legal bills.

Though he can’t be all that poor, what with Papa’s money and his book advance. Italian papers report he bought a Porsche, which he denies here. Yet immediately after his acquittal he was spotted looking at a 105,000 Euros model in a BMW dealership

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3020233/So-Raffaelle-Sollecito-intends-heal-heart-following-Meredith-Kercher-murder-acquittal-Former-suspect-seen-looking-105-000-BMW-lawyer-says-seek-compensation.html Daily Mail but sources confirm he ended up buying a http://www.porsche.com/italy/models/911/911-carrera-4s/ Porsche 911 Carrera 4S instead for 125,000 Euros.

Posted by Ergon on 02/08/16 at 06:02 AM | #

Lies, lies, hidden money, claims from the State. Sounds like he’s expecting some hefty expenses, civil suits,etc. Can Guede place suits for defamation of character against him? The irony of that one.
The app is in bad taste, if he had a shred of human decency he would see that, particularly at this juncture with a retrial looming which will point very firmly at him as a murderer. This is the man who said Knox lived only for her own pleasure, must be like looking in a mirror.

Posted by YorkshireLass on 02/08/16 at 02:43 PM | #

It’s all getting very interesting (again!)

All 3 perps are from broken homes/dysfunctional families. All harbour unconscious feelings of abandonment, feelings that were so unbearable in childhood and infancy that they each constructed robust defences and personas to keep the feelings repressed. To the extent that they don’t revisit and integrate as adults those denied primal feelings they will keep being confronted by situations that threaten rejection and inner chaos. Thus we had RS seeming to acknowledge on one level that his legal acquittal by the Supreme Court won’t really solve anything because he will still have to face feelings of rejection; as a consequence, he implied, he would look to the law if anyone so much as mentions anything that casts doubt on his innocence. In other words, rather than acknowledge his deep and threatening feelings around being rejected, he will hit out at anyone who so much as suggests he is reject-able. On the self-awareness scale he scores zero.

Meanwhile AK is back in her home town,  potentially waiting to revisit her madness in a more local setting while quietly trying to construct a new false self and storyline - one predicated on “doing good” and helping the wrongly accused while doing pro bono (?) work as a “journalist”. This soap opera will no doubt only last as long as she still feels the scrutiny of international attention, and until she feels it is safe to be her wilder self again. Then we can expect her unconscious feelings to propel her once again toward situations that bring up her terror of rejection.

Guede is the man adrift in all this. Culpable though he is there’s a sense that he’s at least aware (to an extent) of his own insecurities. He also seems very aware that he’s been railroaded by Bonnie and Clyde. Jail has afforded him plenty of time for self-refection. For the moment he is taking baby steps towards honesty, but babies grow increasingly confident and this must   worry the other two…

Posted by Odysseus on 02/08/16 at 05:58 PM | #

I watched a crime show on TV (where else) concerning a Nazi war criminal who became a high priest of the Greek Orthodox church in the USA. He was eventually found out and convicted because of people who kept after him, even forty years later. They never gave up hounding him until true justice was served.

It is my sincere wish that Knox understands this because even if it takes that long then it will never stop until the full truth comes out and people realize that she is guilty of murder.

It is my sincere wish that those who insist upon Knox innocence, in spite of the overwhelming evidence of guilt understand this. And to those who believe in Knox as victim. We will never stop until Amanda Knox and Raphael Sollecito who killed Meredith Kercher are brought to justice.

To those of you who support these two murderers the clock is ticking.

Posted by Grahame Rhodes on 02/09/16 at 04:12 AM | #

A man stood in the doorway of Meredith’s room, knife in hand, Meredith bleeding profusely. Rudy Guede was there. He says the man is Raffaele Sollecito. When are you going to sue, Raffaele? Come on, you’re ‘honor bound’.
The San Remo launch of an incomplete business is deflection tactics from the above, it’s that obvious. Wonder if any press there will ask him. I applaud the reporter who has had the guts to call the ‘Memories’ app and Sollecito out as bad taste and ‘trolling’. Hopefully more will follow his lead.

Posted by YorkshireLass on 02/09/16 at 02:34 PM | #

Great job on the translation!!! Must have been a ton of work. Bravo!

I tend to observe body language very closely. Although I am no expert, I believed Rudy’s account on many points. There were only a small number of times when I detected deception; for example, when he said how long he knew Amanda and where he first met her. (Not sure why he would lie about this but it seems to me like he did.)

He did seems to be a very intelligent and thoughtful person, and by using the towels it did seem like he certainly did not kill her, because if he did stab her why would he have tried to help her with towels after the fact?...

I also detected disdain for Knox and Sollecito, which is consistent with many aspects of his story and also his true belief that they got away with murder.

Overall, I find him deserving of much empathy. The only thing that gave me pause was that he said when he left the house “no one” was there and then corrected himself to say “Meredith” was still there. This made me wonder if he really thought of her as a person and how sad does he really feel about her death?

Posted by devorah on 02/10/16 at 04:49 PM | #

The Guede thing is working well, reinforcing that two people got away with murder, the black man was found guilty.

I see Kathleen Zellner has now been educated what a losing cause Knox is, and hopped onto another murder bandwagon, with Steven Avery.

Posted by Ergon on 02/10/16 at 08:27 PM | #
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