Saturday, July 23, 2011

Norwegian Public Safety Forces Ill-Equipped To Stop Possible Worst Shooting Spree in History

Posted by Peter Quennell

The latest death toll estimate at Lake Utoya and Oslo is 98 dead. The gunman was firing for one and a half hours.

Apparently there was no security presence on the island. And the Associated Press has the first report on why such a delayed response from an under-equipped police force to stop Anders Behring Breivik from more killing.

Police arrived at an island massacre about 1.5 hours after a gunman first opened fire, slowed because they didn’t have quick access to a helicopter and then couldn’t find a boat to make their way to the scene just several hundred yards (meters) offshore.

There is a minute by minute description of the growing horror on the island here and a Norwegian politician has posted a first-hand account of how so many others died and she survived here.

Intensely sad and disturbing - and in the land of the Nobel Peace Prize. We don’t support public institutions at our real peril.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 07/23/11 at 11:40 PM in The legal followupsThe wider contexts


Immensely sad indeed. That it was directed at a left wing government is commentary enough, and that right wingers should use assassination as a tool is becoming even more of a given these days.

RIP all those young people on the Island and passerbies in Oslo.

Too close to the murder of Anna Lindh and Olof Palme for comfort.

Posted by Ergon on 07/24/11 at 09:44 AM | #

Hi Ergon.

A feature of these extreme right wing groups which are really taking hold in Europe is that they are very contemptuous of government. They sit around arguing that the government is in the grip of all these huge conspiracies (sound familiar?) and only they can save the day.

Here is a quote from one news story online this morning:  “Authorities said Anders Behring Breivik confessed to the twin attacks, but denied criminal responsibility, saying his actions, which killed 92 people, were “atrocious” but necessary.”

Sadly it too often takes a wakeup call like this to result in a readiness capacity to counteract attacks like this that matters. But extreme right wingers UNDERMINE it.

In New York the readiness capacity is fairly unobtrusive but massive and an effective response to a crazy like this guy would have been under way in minutes. It took two bombings of the World Trade Center (1993 and 2001) to get it that way though.

And a long fight with the right-wing anti-government Bush administration to fund it.

Those who continue to watch the Norwegian situation will see a lot of analysis of what systems were not in place or went wrong and then hopefully enough of the right adjustments to stop this happening again.

The “advanced” economies are under immigration pressure because so many other countries (including China and India) cannot get their growth model right for all of their people. The US has maybe 12 million illegals because countries south confine most growth gains to a few.

Those lower income Americans born here are being squeezed by this:

He’s wrong on the root problem (left wingers get it wrong too) but the lack of any growth gains for most of the population is quite real and exhausting them and slowly jacking up more and more anger, including against multiculturalism (one of Anders Behring Breivik’s beefs).

Posted by Peter Quennell on 07/24/11 at 01:47 PM | #

OT to this subject but relevant to this site

Stefanoni is apparently considering legal action

Posted by mojo on 07/24/11 at 02:27 PM | #

And ultimately this, and the ongoing horror in Somalia,is more important than the Amanda Knox story. But the media, having established a lone nut (not) can move on to Perugia, hoping the Appeal Court will exonerate her.


Posted by Ergon on 07/25/11 at 06:54 PM | #

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