Thursday, October 22, 2020

Being Careful & Precise About The New Standing Of The Madeleine McCann Case

Posted by The Machine

German Federal Police HQ Berlin; as always, click for larger image

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1. Two Cases That Reverberate On

Meredith’s death and Madeleine’s disappearance and probable death happened in the same year: 2007.

They also have in common official investigations misrepresented with lurid conspiracy theories by seemingly xenophobic online trolls.

We have proved the Italian investigation into Meredith’s murder to in fact have been extremely sound. The initial Portuguese investigation was not so good but British and now German investigators who are among the world’s best have added their considerable expertise.

Prosecutor Wolters on Sky News In June

2. The Official German Claims

In June, Hans Christian Wolters - the lead prosecutor (Erster Staatsanwalt) at the Braunschweig Public Prosecutor’s Office - announced to the media that he believed Madeleine McCann had been abducted and murdered by a German man who was currently in prison in Germany.

This man has been identified by reliable media as Christian Brueckner; however, Germany strict privacy laws prevent the authorities and journalists from referring to his full name in the media.

Any German and anyone who has lived in Germany and is familiar with the culture would have sat up and taken notice of this bombshell revelation, because they will know German prosecutors are uber cautious and would never under any circumstances make hyperbolic or rash statements to the public.

They know that Hans Christian Wolters wouldn’t have said Madeleine is dead and the suspect [Christian Brueckner] killed her unless he had concrete evidence to substantiate his claim; and that’s exactly what he has explained repeatedly to the media.

“We have concrete evidence that our suspect has killed Madeleine and this means she is dead.”

“We have strong evidence that Madeleine McCann is dead and that our suspect killed her.”

“...we have enough evidence to say our suspect killed Madeleine McCann.”

3. UK Officialdom Goes Along

The significance of Hans Christian Wolters’ comments wasn’t lost on Simon Foy (above).

He was the most senior murder detective at Scotland Yard and he was part of Operation Grange - which was Scotland Yard’s investigation into Madeleine McCann’s disappearance. He thought it is significant that German authorities have said Madeleine McCann is dead.

“My experience of working with the German police is that they are very careful what they say publicly. They would have recognised the significance of it. They would have recognised the international sensitivity of it and they wouldhave probably recognised the public interest in it and so the fact they [the German investigators] have made that statement is of itself significant.”

The German Federal Police (the BKA) have been working with the UK’s Scotland Yard and the Policia Judiciaria (PJ) - which is the national criminal investigation police agency of Portugal.

DCI Mark Cranwell, who is leading the Metropolitan Police’s Operation Grange investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance, confirmed to the media in June that Christian Brueckner is a suspect.

He said this was a “significant development” and they had been working on this general line of inquiry for a couple of years.

Scotland Yard are officially labeling the case as a missing persons case, but in reality they’re treating the case as a murder inquiry. They know full well that in most stranger-child abductions, the child is sexually assaulted and killed.

The fact that they have said Christian Breucker - a convicted paedophile and rapist with multiple convictions for sexually abusing children - is a suspect is significant. You only need to have a modicum of common sense to join the dots and read between the lines.

Holger Munch (right) head of BKA

4. About The Bundeskriminalamt (BKA)

Hans Christian Wolters isn’t a maverick prosecutor who has put forward his own personal theory on the case to grab a few headlines in the media. He has made it crystal clear that this is a murder case - not a missing persons case.

“This is a murder case not a missing persons case. We have been quite clear throughout that we are investigating a murder and have evidence for that.”

The Bundeskriminalamt (BKA) have have also explicitly stated that the crime is murder on their homepage:

Delikt: Mord
Tatort: Praia da Luz / Portugal
Tatzeit: 03.05.2007
Crime: Murder
Crime scene: Praia da Luz / Portugal
Time of the crime: 03.05.2007

The BKA are the German equivalent of the American FBI or the Italian RIS Carabinieri.

BKA central labs

They fight terrorism, international drug-trafficking, the growth of organised crime and their forensic scientists collect DNA and forensic evidence from crime scenes.

Police officers who want to join the BKA have to study at the Federal University - Departmental Branch of the Federal Criminal Police - for three years at different locations.

They have to study and pass examinations in a variety of subjects e.g. law, criminal proceedings, constitutional law, criminology, police tactics, ethics and they also receive traditional police training like martial arts such as Krav Maga, Jiu Jiutsu, Judo, shooting, basic driving and crime scene investigation.

The video below gives a brief history of the BKA.

The Bundeskriminalamt’s Forensic Science Institute has state-of-the-art laboratories and they use the latest cutting-edge technology.

Germany is one of a few countries in the world that has the technology to test LCN DNA and present it as evidence in court.

The BKA’s DNA experts were part of the disaster investigations team sent to the scene of the 2004 Asian tsunami to identify victims.

It’s not the first time the BKA’s forensic experts have provided assistance to authorities in other countries. They ascertained that the tanker lorry loaded with liquid gas which exploded in front of a synagogue in Djerba, Tunisia in 2002 was a coordinated attack - not an unfortunate accident.

Whilst investigating a series of murders commited by the National Socialist Underground in 2012, the BKA collected, stored and analysed more than 5,500 pieces of evidence. That case highlights the professionalism of the BKA’s forensic experts and underlines just how meticulous and painstaking their work is.

The PJ’s investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance was riddled with critical mistakes. They didn’t process the crime scene during the “golden hour”. The golden hour is the term used for the period immediately after an offence has been committed which gives forensic police officers the best opportunity to collect DNA and forensic evidence.

They didn’t treat Madeleine’s disappearance as a crime until the next day. They ignored what the Forensic Science Service told them with regard to the DNA results being inconclusive and they allowed the apartment where the McCanns were staying to be rented out before they had finished processing the crime scene.

The new BKA forensic labs (Forensic Science Institute) in Wiesbaden.

The video below gives more information about the German Forensic Science Unit.

5. How The BKA Investigation Into The Case Began

In 2017, Kate and Gerry McCann appealed for information about their missing daughter Madeleine on a German television programme Aktenzeichen XY…ungelost (File XY…unsolved). It led to someone contacting the BKA.

This person told the BKA that he had seen a video of Christian Brueckner raping an elderly woman. The witness gave the BKA information that led to Christian Brueckner being convicted of the rape a 72-year-old American woman in Praia du Luz in 2005.

There is no doubt that Christian Brueckner is guilty of raping this woman because his DNA was recovered from the crime scene. This is one of the reasons why the BKA and the German prosecutors regard the witness as being credible.

The same witness claims Christian Brueckner admitted that he had abducted Madeleine.

The BKA decided to investigate further because he had proven to be a credible witness and they discovered Christian Brueckner’s mobile pinged the phone mast that covers the Ocean Club shortly before Madeleine was abducted.

Officers with the BKA’s Department SO25 set up a special taskforce to investigate Brueckner. They will have discovered that he has a number of convictions for sexually abusing children over a long period of time - which lends more credibility to the claim that he is responsible for Madeleine’s abduction.

Some of the Anti-McCann trolls on Twitter have questioned the claim in the media that Christian Bruckner has been imprisoned for sexually abusing children - but it’s stated right there in black and white on the BKA’s website.

“Furthermore, the suspect [Christian Brueckner] was sentenced on numerous occasions to prison terms for sexual abuse of children in the past.” (The BKA website).

The BKA searched a deserted factory factory owned by Brueckner and they discovered USB sticks and a hard drive with over 8,000 images of abuse hidden in plastic bags and buried.

Mark T Hofmann - a German criminal profiler and intelligence analyst - pointed out that this is significant because it proves that Christian Brueckner is a paedophile who obsessed with sexual abuse.

BKA investigators

6. Brueckner Seemingly Incriminates Himself

The BKA also discovered an online conversation about Madeleine between Christian Brueckner and another paedophile.

Christian Brueckner has also fantasised about abducting and abusing a small child for days in a chatroom conversation. He allegedly said he wanted to “capture something small and use it for days”

“Oh, if the evidence is destroyed afterwards…I will document exactly how they will be tortured.”

“Well let’s see, not only talking but also doing it!”

Profilers at the BKA describe Brueckner in their report as a psychopath who is capable of anything.

He reportedly didn’t show the slightest flicker of remorse or any empathy for the six-year-old girl he sexually abused in Germany when he was a teenager.

At his trial at Wuerzburg District Court, he was asked by the juvenile judge what he thought about his actions and he replied: “I didn’t think anything.”

Serafim Vieira, a lawyer who represented Christian Brueckner in a separate case, believes Brueckner may have may have abducted Madeleine and had “psychopathic traits”.

“I believe he could be behind the disappearance of Maddie”

“I can’t say he didn’t have a psychopathic temperament - on the contrary.”

Hans Christian Wolters has said they have concrete evidence against Christian Brueckner that they haven’t shared with the British or Portuguese police because it could jeopardise their investigation.

He wouldn’t have said this if it wasn’t true. The German police and prosecutors are above reproach in such matters.

Triangulation by phone towers in red

7. A Closer Look At The Mobile Phone Evidence

In 2007 Scotland Yard’s top digital analysis expert went to Praia da Luz.

He mapped out how different mobile phone masts served various parts of the Praia da Luz resort and nearby areas.

This information help police to check the alibis of any suspects who used mobile phones that night.

After the German Federal police, the BKA, had been given Christian Brueckner’s name in connection with Madeleine’s disappearance, they asked Scotland Yard for the mobile phone data for all the calls that were made in Praia da Luz on 3 May 2007.

They had to painstakingly sift through a huge amount of data, looking for the proverbial needle in the haystack.

Through this they discovered that Christian Bruecker used his phone for 30 minutes that evening close to the Ocean Club.

Martin Brunt - a reporter for Sky News who has covered the case from the beginning - was one of the first journalists to reveal this information.

“It is thought he [Christian Brueckner] was close to the apartment where she [Madeleine] was sleeping.”

This corroborates the claim of the credible witness who said that Christian Brueckner was responsible for Madeleine’s abduction - it certainly doesn’t contradict it.

If Christian Brueckner’s mobile phone had pinged a phone mast in Germany or in another part of Portugal, he could have been eliminated as a suspect there and then.

Of course, the mobile phone evidence alone isn’t enough proof that Christian Brueckner abducted and killed Madeleine

But as in Meredith’s case (as the Supreme Court ruled in annulling the Hellman outcome in 2012) all the pieces of evidence have to be considered wholly - not separately and in isolation from the other pieces of evidence.

This is a point that the prosecutor in the news Hans Christian Wolters made.

“All I can say is this is like a puzzle and there are many pieces that lead us to believe Christian B is responsible.”

Mobile phone evidence can narrow down someone’s location to a very small area:

  • In a UK case Jessica Chapman’s mobile phone was just outside or inside Ian Huntley’s home in Soham on the day she and Holly Wells disappeared

  • In Meredith’s case Amanda Knox’s mobile phone was in a small area of Perugia where she was on her way to work at 8:18pm on the night of the murder.

She was definitely not at Sollecito’s apartment as she claimed. One of the more damning pieces of evidence in the case.

Hans Christian Wolters clearly believes the mobile phone evidence places Christian Bruecker in the close vicinity of the Ocean Club shortly before Madeleine was abducted.

“One of the pieces [of evidence] is the signal from the mobile phone he was using at the time Madeleine McCann disappeared and has been shown to have been in the area of the Ocean Club resort where she was staying.”

Liz Hayes

Australian reporter Liz Hayes pressed him on this matter:

Liz Hayes: “So what you’re saying to me is that you can place Christian Brueckner at the scene [the Ocean Club]?”

Hans Christian Wolters: “Yes, we think so.”

According to Liz Hayes, Christian Brueckner’s mobile phone was used just outside the Ocean Club

That phone call was triangulated.

8. Finally, What Could The Concrete Evidence Be?

Journalists Liz Hayes (60 Minutes Australia) and Sandra Felgueiras (Sexta As 9) both seem to think the BKA found photographs or a video of Madeleine on one of Christian Brueckner’s USB sticks or hard drives.

If this is true, it’s damning evidence against CB. It would certainly explain why Hans Christian Wolters and the BKA are absolutely adamanat that Christian Brueckner killed Madeleine.

Hans Christian Wolters has repeatedly refused to answer the question when he was asked whether they had found any photographs or videos of Madeleine.

“At the moment, I am not allowed to comment on that, so I am not able to say if there are pictures or there are no pictures of Madeleine.” (Hans Christian Wolters, Inside the secret lair of prime suspect in Madeleine McCann’s disappearance | 60 Minutes Australia).


He has previously been candid that they don’t have a body or any forensic evidence, so why wouldn’t he just be candid if they haven’t found any photographs or videos of Madeleine?

In June, Hans Christian Wolters said they believe they had almost a complete set of evidence. “We think we have 90 per cent evidence.” And in that recent interview with Sandra Felgueiras, he claimed that they have more evidence.

Obviously, more to come.

Posted by The Machine on 10/22/20 at 05:32 PM in


Compelling work. The high ground on this open case for sure.

The fact that BKA president Holger Munch (image above) goes along actually tells us a lot. He is charismatic, effective, and well liked and runs a tight ship.

It’s worth watching his interviews on YouTube. He is very lively and fast-moving and an excellent talker.

He was formerly the police chief of Bremen west of Hamburg, the general area of where Brueckner lived and is locked up.

Other police forces should be so lucky, to have such a front. Giovanni Nistri, the current head of the Carabinieri, is more laid back.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 10/23/20 at 09:47 AM | #

Shriller factions of the anti-McCanns, and of the QAnons in the United States, both of them ultimately intent on undermining western governments, are believed here to have Russian trolls behind them.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 10/23/20 at 07:17 PM | #

A number of mainstream media organisations in the US and UK allowed conspiracy nuts to claim Mignini, the Scientific Police, the Perugia Flying Squad, multiple judges, including Supreme Court judges, all conspired to frame Amanda Knox just because they didn’t approve of her morals or she was American.

I’m losing track of all the people allegedly involved in the conspiracy to cover up Madeleine’s accidental death - Kate and Gerry McCann, the Tapas Seven, Clement Freud, Martin Brunt, Robert Murat, Gordon Brown, Scotland Yard and the Forensic Science Service.

Conspiracy nuts are able to suspend their disbelief and seriously entertain ridiculously far-fetched scenarios such as Gerry McCann strolling through the streets of Praia da Luz, carrying his dead daughter, hoping no-one would notice and then hiding her body in a mythical fridge or freezer that just appeared by magic.

Posted by The Machine on 10/24/20 at 04:14 AM | #

We could use a long version of that, Machine, though I do see you say it’s hard to keep track.

Here is a longish version demonstrating the craziness of the mafia trolls who are the most active in Meredith’s case.

There’s a reason that the Russian trolls and mafia trolls are using the same playbook.

It’s pretty effective, at least for a while, in sowing hostility and mistrust in millions of minds.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 10/24/20 at 09:39 AM | #

Thanks to our main poster Machiavelli for this surprising CNN report in English.

That’s atop a mountain east of Perugia and you can “drive up and down” the main streets and the dramatic in-road (which finishes there) in Google Street View by searching these coordinates.

42°47’17.61"N 12°57’4.78"E

Posted by Peter Quennell on 10/25/20 at 10:24 AM | #

I believe German Prosecutor Wolters when he says they have “concrete evidence”, “strong evidence” and “enough evidence” that Brueckner killed Maddie McCann.

Thank goodness this devil known as Christian Brueckner is behind bars. Poor little Maddie’s life was stolen many years ago as most people sensed, but she remains an angel in our hearts. She is forever sweet and innocent.

Now the Germans say they have solid PROOF the child is dead and that Brueckner killed her. They’ll make a case against him that will end his sadistic meanness once and for all.

Posted by Hopeful on 10/28/20 at 06:02 PM | #

Hans Christian Wolters recently said the evidence against Christian Brueckner isn’t so strong that they can be sure he will be convicted. The CPS take a more pragmatic approach and will charge a suspect if there is a realistic prospect of a conviction. If the evidence against Christian Brueckner is strong enough to convince the BKA and the German prosecutors that he killed Madeleine, it’s surely strong enough to convince the judges and lay judges too.

Posted by The Machine on 10/30/20 at 06:16 AM | #

It will never cease to amaze me that Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito got away with the murder of Meredith Kercher.

Posted by DavidB on 10/30/20 at 01:56 PM | #

“It will never cease to amaze me that Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito got away with the murder of Meredith Kercher.”

So far!! RS is already paying a huge price, and Knox will also one the US media can move on from the election.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 10/31/20 at 12:58 PM | #

Headsup. Major excitement on TV tomorrow Sunday if you can get to watch the Spanish cycling grand tour now 1/2 way along.

The most notoriously difficult and perhaps dangerous climb in all of the cycling world will be embarked upon. Later it’ll be all over YouTube.

It is put on the Spanish route every several years, and has at some points a 20-plus percent gradient. If it rains, it is almost impossible to keep traction.

With two astonishing wins in the past 3 days my money is on the cool and very colorful Roglic. Nerves of steel, that guy.


Posted by Peter Quennell on 10/31/20 at 01:05 PM | #

@DavidB, I feel ya. It has been a lesson in patience to see these two flitting around grinning and spinning lies. Today is October 31 which is U.S. Halloween. Will Knox again paint her face like a cat and do her usual hooliganisn with the witches of Seattle? Will Mr. Robinson dress like a mummy with a cleaver in hand and a bottle of cleaning solution?

One day there’ll be a breakthrough for Justice.

One day someone who Knox confided in long ago may unburden himself with a deathbed confession or Knox might reveal the truth in a drunken party moment seeking to impress.

She may have confessed to her husband? pillow talk.

She might whisper something to the various strangers and guests who rent her home’s BNB, pretending to be teasing but flouting common sense and letting the truth out “hidden in plain sight.” The urge to confess is strong.

No telling what she has already hinted to her Mom and Dad and even siblings who have long protected her, carrying the hidden burden since 2007 or 2008. She may have written veiled confessions and hidden them. They may be unearthed one day.

Rudy might get out of prison and “tell all”.

Sollecito might have a spiritual revival, a word from Padre Pio or higher authority to speak the full truth.

His Dad may know every detail of the crime from what his son told him years ago, but had to suppress it to save his fragile son from a long punishment. The truth is out there and has a way of revealing itself.

Knox might act out again in a narcissistic rage, emboldened by having escaped prison before. I fear for her husband but he may be another Sollecito.

The brown sequin was recently noticed on Meredith’s rug. New things may come to iight. Hidden journals might surface, old letters.  Forensics can now get DNA from a hair with no root.

Forensics may eventually prove beyond a shadow of a doubt Knox and Raf did the crime. Then even if they can’t be imprisoned, the world will see through their lies.

Knox runs with liars like herself and smooth conmen of her ilk at various “innocence” conventions. One liar knows another. Anything could erupt. Water seeks its own level, and Knox’s lies will come back to haunt her.

Another snare knowing Knox’s larcenous heart: I believe she may get into financial fraud possibly involved with the convoluted way she and hubby bought their house with his fellow writer Kovak.

She and Raf will one day answer to the highest court and stand before a judgment seat as we all will. Lies won’t do any good there. We all need mercy there.

Now let me go and stir my chili.

Posted by Hopeful on 10/31/20 at 01:07 PM | #

Pete, that will be a good day!

Hopeful, you are so right.  Not just Knox herself but the circle around her also know the truth.  They’ve read all the books and watched all the Youtube videos. At least the good ones surely have..

I think Knox and Sollecito have somehow convinced themselves that they’re innocent. I think they’ve made a pact and are determined to stick to their story.
But it must be awful to live such a lie. Especially when the circle around them know otherwise.

Posted by DavidB on 11/01/20 at 06:20 AM | #

A sad night, just passed. Most here know that at Meredith’s family’s suggestion we stopped noting this in main posts and instead at their wish note Meredith’s birthday on 28 Dec instead.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 11/02/20 at 09:28 AM | #

I thought of Meredith’s trips to Brighton today when I stopped along the interstate at a shop and bought a Brighton purse. Got home and saw this headline with Knox on Daily Mail: “AK compares her wrongful murder conviction to challenges of the pandemic and unrest in 2020 saying she feels ‘perpetually lost and this year the rest of the country has joined me’.

The article in today’s Daily Mail (November 2, 2020 in U.S.A.) speaks of an op-ed piece Knox wrote a week or so ago for the Forge. Behind the photo of Knox is a small thumbnail pic of recent U.S. riots over election, BLM, Antifa or whatever the ruckus photographed was about. Knox says it is “disorienting, sickening’ and ‘deeply familiar’.

Knox wrote about feeling lost, “All at once so many of us are having to figure out how to make the best of a (expletive) situation that none of us foresaw. We are an entire nation adrift. We are lost en masse.’

She said, ‘In freedom my undeserved notoriety was a problem.’ She tells people to make ‘the lack of a road map an asset’...‘and I can tell you from experience it can be an asset. Life is a never-ending series of problems, but problems are opportunities.’

Knox said she used her time in prison to become fluent in Italian and to use her own experiences to become ‘a skeptic of the popular narrative’.

In the Forge she said she ‘wouldn’t trade her life’...‘because regret and “if-only” thinking stifle imagination and because the opportunities before me are magnificent in all their confusion and peril’.

Knox talked about ‘the rampant vitriol on social media, growing wealth inequality, mass population displacements due to climate change and the looming automation crisis that will eradicate tens of millions of jobs within the next few decades’.

Knox said ‘Right now our society is lost but what has been true for me is true for us all. Facing a host of seemingly insurmountable problems with no clear direction ahead of us, we have incredible opportunities’.

See AK’s Advice for Living With Uncertainty /  FORGE

Meanwhile the Mail article also ran the lovely photo of a smiling Meredith in her black slip dress with spaghetti straps, her hair long and in pristine style around her soft eyes and kind face with an evanescent glow in her cheeks, unworried about a thing and beautiful, not trying too hard just being real. That was Meredith.

She was smart as a whip, too, with a very active mind and thirst for knowledge, and a strong desire to help people, a natural humility yet plenty of self-respect.

I’m glad she got to tour the Lake Country in her land, to be a tour guide in London among happy tourists, and to go to Brighton. It’s great she had such a marvelous childhood riding the train in a neighbor lady’s yard, her father creating special stories just for little Meredith. She was blessed with loving parents.

She lived a lifetime in her two decades, got the best of everything. She danced and ate pizza with friends and tutored fellow students. She went to Italy when she was a child. She became an Erasmus scholar, no small feat, She was a pillar of strength to her Mother and Father and loving sister and brothers by her positive example. She was a joy.

Posted by Hopeful on 11/02/20 at 06:17 PM | #

What better way to maintain Knox’s profile than to post another untruthful article on the anniversary of Meredith’s murder. Just like she does every year.

The reason she felt lost and had to make the best of a s****y situation was because she was guilty and trying to pretend that she was innocent.

If she were innocent she would get on with her life instead of reminding everyone of who she is every year on Meredith’s murder.

Posted by DavidB on 11/03/20 at 07:07 AM | #

As. U.S. election results are still uncertain, Knox “is slammed for Tweet saying, “Whatever happens the next four years can’t be as bad as that four-year study abroad I did in Italy, right? November 4, 2020 Daily Mail online.

Her tweet was called “foul” and “gross” for making light of Meredith’s murder.

Many criticized Knox for making light of Meredith’s horrific murder. They considered her “self-centered”, told her to “Feel bad for the woman who didn’t make it back from that study abroad. I think “she” had it a lot worse than you and your boo.”

Others tweeted, “I’m sure the family of the murdered girl appreciate you finding the funny side.”

“How dare you mock the death of that girl?

“Hey you know someone died, right?”

“I have followed your story all this time, rooted for you, even bought your first book. This is completely inappropriate . Unfollowing.”

The Daily Mail comments beneath the online article were just as negative toward Knox, with a few on her side.

Canberra, Australia
“Knox always seems to make everything about her. She appears to be a narcissist.”

London, UK
Body language experts said that “80-90% of what she said (when interviewed) was lies.”

Conwy, UK
Will we never hear the last of her?

“I think she murdered Meredith.”


“it was a funny tweet….lighten up people.”

Posted by Hopeful on 11/04/20 at 04:25 PM | #

What an utterly vile thing to say. But what else should we expect from Amanda Knox.

Meredith lost her life.

Incredible that people around her don’t seem bothered by these things she does.

Posted by DavidB on 11/04/20 at 05:07 PM | #

With Amanda Knox, it’s always about *her*. I hope she gets the psychological help that she needs.

Hopeful, I love the way you describe Meredith. It would appear more-and-more to me that the motive aligns with Amanda’s inability to be like Meredith, and the jealousy that aroused in her. Mrs. Kercher was probably correct.

Posted by Earthling on 11/04/20 at 10:40 PM | #

@Earthling, I agree. Knox had jealousy and envy against Meredith that led to hatred and rage. Arline Kercher said it all with her simple words about Meredith being everything that Knox was not.

Posted by Hopeful on 11/05/20 at 05:44 PM | #
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