Breaking news. The Cassation sentencing report has been released. Summary and analysis follow in the next few days. At first glance, the report is precisely what Yummi called it in this long preview: A Real Catastrophe For The Defenses. The US State Department and US Embassy in Rome despise the bigotted and dishonest Knox-Mellas PR campaign which harms the US image and interests with a key ally, so they are unlikely to lift a finger to prevent Knox being invited back. And Sollecito is already being sent back by the Swiss.
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Friday, May 22, 2009
Trial: The Morning Report By Sky New’s Nick Pisa
Posted by Peter Quennell
Click above for the full story.
DNA from Meredith Kercher murder suspect Amanda Knox was found on the handle of a kitchen knife and Miss Kercher’s DNA was on the tip, a court has heard…
On Friday, forensic scientist Patrizia Stefanoni told the court how her team had recorded 460 biological traces at the crime scene.
Dr Stefanoni also said DNA traces were found on a black-handled kitchen knife recovered from Sollecito’s flat - which the court has been told is compatible with the murder weapon.
She showed photographs of the knife and pointed out the areas of the handle where Knox’s DNA was found, and the tip of the blade where Miss Kercher’s was found.
Dr Stefanoni told the court that blood tests on the knife had proved negative, and in earlier hearings the judge and jury were told that the knife had been cleaned.
DNA from Knox and Miss Kercher was also found in blood stains found in the bidet of the bathroom, the sink and on a box of cotton wool buds, the court heard.
Dr Stefanoni said the bloodstains were “slightly pink as if the result of being washed”....
The court heard how DNA from Sollecito was found on a metal clasp that had been cut away from Miss Kercher’s bra and which was found at the scene.
A blood stain found in the bedroom of flatmate Laura Romanelli was also found to have DNA from Knox and Miss Kercher.
That last line sure surprised us! But we think Nick Pisa may have intended to write Filomena Romanelli and not Laura Romanelli at that point.
Mixed-blood evidence found in either bedroom would appears to be very important new news, and even tougher for the defense teams than the mixed bathroom traces.
We remain grateful for Nick Pisa’s fast reports. The London Times, in contrast, has not posted any report on the trial for quite some time now.
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Today’s Witness Patrizia Stefanoni Shakes Hands With Prosecutor Giuliano Mignini
Posted by Peter Quennell
Italian media have reported that the first part of Ms Stefanoni’s deposition was a sort of seminar on how to catalogue and collect forensic evidence and exhibits.
From La Nazione: “We use kits which are internationally recognized and marketed. This means that a researcher in Sydney, Australia, looking at the same tube would see the same outcome in terms of results of the DNA. For our investigation of the death of Meredith, two different special kits were used to analyze the DNA and other genetic traces.”
She then testified that 460 biological traces were collected and analyzed. And that 360-degree images of each room were taken in advance of each of the team’s search for more evidence. She excluded contamination by her operatives.
“In collecting traces of bloodstains, it is crucial for the operator not to come into contact with them, not to alter the scene, and to avoid being infected by bacteria or viruses. Therefore we use special gloves, boots, masks and coveralls.”
Ms Stefanoni’ found no biological evidence under Meredith’s short fingernails, which she found not unexpected as Meredith was apparently fighting off a knife attack and then down on her hands and knees.
It is perhaps worth recalling that Ms Stefanoni presented essentially the same evidence at the trial of Rudy Guede. Judge Micheli seems to have found it extremely credible, as it forms a large part of his report.
Judge Micheli then awarded Guede a term of 30 years in prison, and Prosecutor Mignini had only asked for 25.
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Thursday, May 21, 2009
The Trial Resumes: The Court Agenda For Friday And Saturday
Posted by Peter Quennell
Italian media have reported the following agenda for Friday and Saturday.
Probably all day Friday: Patrizia Stefanoni. leader of the forensic team, who will testify on the crime scene and what was found where and how it was collected.
Probably all day Saturday: Francesco Camana, who will testify on the bloody footprints revealed with luminol, and then Giuseppe Codisposti and Piero Sbardella, who will testify on the second collection of evidence and the prints found on the pillow.
We are anticipating (see our right column for dates) that there will be no court sessions next Friday and Saturday because a public holiday in Italy renders this traditionally a long weekend.
Meredith’s mother and perhaps other members of the Kercher family are expected to testify at the next session on 5 or 6 June.
And in a Seattle PI interview, Curt Knox has confirmed that Amanda Knox wants to testify at the session after that on 12 or 13 June.
Soon thereafter, all Italian courts will cease sessions for a period of some weeks during the vacation period.
The defense phase of the trial will resume in September and the trial may be over in October and the verdicts and sentences, if any, announced then.
If the verdicts are “guilty” appeals are automatic under the Italian system..
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Wednesday, May 20, 2009
Three More Scenarios For The Night That Accord With The Timeline
Posted by Fiori

[Above: the platform where we believe Meredith first set foot in Perugia]
I seem to be one of a growing number aching to see true justice for Meredith to be the final conclusion to all this.
Like many others here I am struggling to make sense of a reported pattern of events that is confusing and incomplete, and in terms of a motive possibly senseless.
And like some of the others here I have been trying to fit the facts as they emerge into a sort of a chronological framework. I draw from Michael’s excellent Master Timeline for the known overall chronology.
These below are three possible scenarios. They presume for the sake of argument that the defendants were in fact involved, along with Rudy Guede. The scenarios all have one common front end through to just after 9 pm, but thereafter, they differ slightly. And at bottom (under the “click for more”) I have included some annotations on key elements.
These scenarios may stand or fall as the trial moves forward, but I hope they inspire other scenarios so we may all conclude that the crime really has been properly solved and true justice for Meredith is widely perceived as a reality.
Common front end to all three scenarios
I am presuming that although the exact timing may have been vague (nobody knew when Meredith would arrive home) something involving Meredith was intended. Events involving the alibis and other statements, cell phones and the knife, and assembly at the house, simply seem too hard to explain otherwise.
1 pm: Meredith and Amanda Knox each have lunch in the cottage. Perhaps some annoying subjects are discussed. Perhaps Meredith comments on Knox’s behavior around the house and her male visitors, as only a thin wall separates their two bedrooms.
5 to 6 pm: Knox and Sollecito stroll around in the center of town and, by chance perhaps, they meet with Rudy Guede. They perhaps believe that Guede has some desire for Meredith. They make an appointment to meet Guede at 8.30 pm at the cottage, perhaps intending to edge Meredith into an affair with Guede as a payback for Meredith’s problems with Knox.
6 to 8 pm:Knox and Sollecito are at Sollecito’s apartment and consider what might lie ahead for them that evening. There are the interactions with Lumumba and the woman who had asked for a lift to the station.
8:30 pm Guede arrives and waits at the cottage for Knox to arrive.
8:40 pm Mobile phones of Knox and Sollecito are switched off, with the seeming intention of preventing Knox and Sollecito from being disturbed or traced.
8:45 pm: Knox walks home to her cottage and admits Guede, and Sollecito follows shortly after with some mushrooms
8:50 pm: Knox and Sollecito and Guede are in the kitchen of the cottage, perhaps cooking mushrooms, perhaps dealing or using drugs, and perhaps all three waiting for Meredith.
8:56 pm: After saying goodbye to Robyn on her way home from the English girls’ house, Meredith calls her mother while walking, but her call is interrupted for some unknown reason
9:10 pm: Meredith enters the cottage, and is so displeased about the party in the kitchen that she goes on to her room, being demonstrative about not joining the party.
Now for three different possibilities
The scenarios below are actually not mutually exclusive, but they inscribe a different ordering and weighting of the information. These are my factual baselines:
a) The car breakdown in front of the gate makes it seems unlikely that Meredith was murdered between 10.30 and 11.20. So either Knox and Sollecito are IN the cottage during the whole hour from 10.30 to 11.20, or they are OUTSIDE the cottage the whole time.
b) The testimony of Curatola in the park seems credible, but what did he precisely see? “He said also that, although he did not watch them all the time …. He originally said that they were there from 9:30 through midnight, but clarified that they were there at 9:30-10:00pm and may have left around 11-11:30 and then returned to be there just before midnight” (quote from Stewarthome2000 on TJMK on 3/29). See my annotation below on this.
c) Cell phone activity: “.. Meredith’s cell phone made a call (not a phone call but a GPS call attempt) at I believe around 10:15 pm, and that the call was made from the area where the phones were found the next day as it involved a different cell tower than those covering Via della Pergola” (quote from Stewarthome2000 on TJMK, 3/21)
In other places this information is confirmed and the time is given as 10.13. This is a crucial point, as it is then impossible that Meredith made the call while struggling. The scenario by Brian S on TJMK on 3/31 suggested ” The scenario suggests is that Meredith was struggling with her attackers from around the time of her aborted call at 10:13 pm until sometime just before 10:30 pm.”
I suggest that Knox and/or Sollecito were responsible for throwing Meredith’s two mobile phones away in the garden, as a) I feel it does not fit the psychology of Guede to think to take the cell phones, and b) the position of the call does not fit with Guede seen leaving the cottage at 10.30. If Guede had taken the phones, he would have had to leave the cottage around 10.05 pm, in order for the cell phones to be in the area of the other cell phone mast at 10.13, See my annotation below on this.
The first scenario
9.15: Meredith goes to her bedroom, perhaps to try to go to sleep. She was known to be tired after a late night on Halloween.
9.20: Knox and Sollecito perhaps steal Meredith’s mobile phones now, to prevent her from calling the police during whatever the event was with Guede that they intended.
9.35: Guede hides in the toilet at a distance from Meredith’s room, to prevent Meredith from hearing that he remains in the house, while …
9.35: Knox and Sollecito perhaps now leave the house to create an alibi for themselves for the staged event between Meredith and Guede (presumably a rape) so they can afterwards claim that they did not know that Guede was still in the house after they left. Knox and Sollecito walk to Piazza Grimana (Curatolo as witness). They take with them Meredith’s cell phones.
9.40: Guede leaves the toilet and enters Meredith’s room, perhaps trying to lure/force Meredith into having relations with him.
10.00: Guede and Meredith are the ones heard arguing loud (Marlacchia as witness) and Meredith fights back as Guede tries to rape her. Guede tries to strangle Meredith to keep her quiet
10.00: Knox and Sollecito are up at Piazza Grimana, walking to and from the wall, discussing how things might be developing within the cottage. Then they split up.
10.10: Knox returns to the cottage, and finds Meredith wounded/struggling in the bedroom/kitchen; and a big fight, including the use of a knife, is still taking place.
10.13: Sollecito (leaving to pick up his car?) throws Meredith’s phones into the garden where the cell phones are found the next morning. As Meredith’s cell phone hits the ground and tumbles around, the call function is activated.
10.20: Sollecito arrives back at the cottage and more knives become involved
10.25: Meredith’s is stabbed fatally in the neck, screams out loud (Capezzali as witness, uncertain about the time)
10.30: Guede flees the cottages (Formica, witness)
10.30: Knox and Sollecito flee the cottage (diverse witnesses hear running)
10.35- 11.15: A car is parked in front of the house, blocking the entrance, and the breakdown receives assistance from the tow truck (Lambrotti as witness)
11.30: Knox and Sollecito are again watched by Curatola up at Piazza Grimana
The second scenario
9.15-9.35: The party develops out of hand, and Meredith is deadly wounded in the struggle with Knox, Sollecito, and Guede.
9.35: Knox and Sollecito leave the house and walk to Piazza Grimana (Curatolo as witness). They take Meredith’s cell phones with them. They discuss what to do. Problem here: where is Guede?
10.00: Knox and Sollecito split up, and Knox returns to the house.
10.00: Knox and Guede argue loudly in the house (Marlacchia as witness).
10.00: Sollecito picks up his car at home, and while driving…
10.13: … Sollecito throws Merediths phones into the garden where the cell phones later are found.
10.15: Sollecito park his car in front of the cottage (to use the car for….?)
10.30: Guede flees (but why wait until now?)
10.30-11.20: Sollecito is with Knox in the cottage. (doing what for one hour?)
10.35- 11.15: Car parked in front of the house, blocking the entrance, and the breakdown receives assistance from the tow truck (Lambrotti as witness)
11.20: Knox now screams? (Capezzali as witness)
11.23: Knox and Sollecito flee the cottage (diverse witnesses hear running on the stairs)
11.45: Knox and Sollecito are again watched by Curatola at Piazza Grimana
The third scenario
Note: this one does not fit the forensics timeframe for Meredith’s death which was put at between 9.00 and 11.00 pm
10.30: Guede departs from the cottages (Formica as witness) leaving Meredith behind, perhaps strangled into unconsciousness.
10.35- 11.15: Car parked in front of the house, blocking the entrance, and the breakdown receives assistance from the tow truck (Lambrotti as witness)
11.15: Knox and Sollecito enter the house ….
11.20: Knox and Sollecito perhaps now kill Meredith (scream with Capazzali as witness)
11.13: Knox and Sollecito flee the cottage (diverse witnesses hear running)
11.45: Knox and Sollecito are again watched by Curatola at Piazza Grimana
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Monday, May 11, 2009
Trial: The Beast On The Footprints - And Meredith’s House
Posted by Peter Quennell
Click above for Barbie Nadeau’s report on last Friday and Saturday at court.
Amanda Knox’s father is interviewed. And we are quoted on Meredith’s house as follows.
The Daily Beast also discovered that administrators of one of the blogs that follows the Kercher trial, True Justice for Meredith Kercher, is considering buying the House of Horrors to make sure it isn’t forgotten. “Increasingly, Meredith’s followers seem to hope that the groundswell for Meredith evolves into something tangible.
Making an offer for the Via della Pergola house, perhaps establishing a memorial garden there, is one possible objective,” Peter Quennell, who runs the True Justice site, tells me. “Meredith is clearly coming to stand for something transcendent. She already seems an iconic presence for many followers of the case.”
In our incoming emails, compassion for Meredith is mounting higher and higher, and this flows in part from an obvious sadness that the house might revert to a student rental or grim tourist attraction.
The Kercher family have not testified about Meredith at the trial yet - that might happen in three weeks. We feel it appropriate to simply float this possibility and no more for now.
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Saturday, May 09, 2009
Trial: Andrea Vogt Provides More Detail On The Bloody Footprints
Posted by Peter Quennell
Click above for the report on the Seattle PI website.
1) From the prosecution testimony
Over the opposition of both defense teams, Lorenzo Rinaldi demonstrated to jurors using a precise Power Point presentation why the visible bloody footprint left on the cotton bath mat in the bathroom is attributable to Sollecito, who is on trial along with Knox for murder of her British roommate, Meredith Kercher, in November 2007….
“All the elements are compatible with Mr. Sollecito’s foot,” Rinaldi said, pointing with a red laser to a millimeter-by-millimeter analysis of Sollecito’s footprint projected onto a big-screen in the courtroom. He used similar methods to exclude that the footprint on the bath mat could possibly be Guede’s or Knox’s…
The next witness, another print expert, again confirmed Rinaldi’s testimony, that the print, which only shows the top half of the foot, matches the precise characteristics of Sollecito’s foot.
Two luminol-enhanced bare footprints were also found compatible with Knox’s right foot, Rinaldi said, one exiting her own room and another in the corridor outside Kercher’s door, facing toward the room.
All the bloody shoeprints in the room where Kercher was found were compatible with the size 11 Nike Outbreak 2 shoes believed to be Guede’s, Rinaldi said, except for one smaller, unattributed shoeprint found on the pillow that was under Kercher’s body.
Presiding Judge Giancarlo Massei asked Rinaldi what size that shoe print was, he responded “37 or 38.” He then asked what size Knox wears, and Rinaldi said according to other shoes sequestered from the crime scene, she wears a 37.
A second print expert later testified that he believed the shoeprint to be that of a woman’s size 37.5 Asics tennis shoe. No Asics tennis shoes were among the 22 pairs sequestered by police from the three’s apartments.
Rinaldi’s detailed PPT described methods of image analysis, metric and grid measurement of the ball, toe, heel and arch, as well the particular characteristics of the footprints, shoeprints as well as the actual shoes and feet of Knox, Sollecito and Guede. The three suspects gave their footprints and fingerprints at police headquarters.
2) And from the cross-examination
On cross examination, one of Knox’s defense team, Rome lawyer Carlo Dalla Vedova, questioned the certainty with which the prints could be considered compatible with Knox’s foot. He noted that a match with Sollecito and Guede’s footprints was excluded, but asked why the luminol print was not compared with the other two female roommates in the house.
Under cross, Rinaldi also confirmed that luminol, a substance used by forensic police to reveal non-visible traces of blood, also could react to other substances that contain iron, such as fruit juices, chlorophyll or rust, as well as bleach.
When asked what substance the print was made in, Rinaldi said he does only image analysis and such a determination would have to be made by a forensic biologist. That witness is scheduled to testify at the next hearing. Defense teams have all hired their own forensic experts to testify during their presentations.
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Trial: Italian-Language Video Report On Today’s Session
Posted by Peter Quennell
Click above for the video. It starts immediately.
Much of the focus is on Sollecito and his lawyer discussing the luminol-enhanced footprints - we hope not for the first time.
The lawyer in shirt-sleeves who stands up near the end is Mr Maresca, the Kercher family’s representative at the trial.
We are presuming that he will have a role in presenting the family’s testimonies, which may happen in three or four weeks.
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Saturday Morning At Trial: Bloody Footprints Said To Match The Defendants
Posted by Peter Quennell
Click above for Nick Pisa’s lunchtime report.
Bloodstained footprints found at the house where British student Meredith Kercher was stabbed to death fit her alleged killers, a court has heard.
Forensic scientists found one imprint on a bath mat and three more in the corridor leading from Meredith’s bedroom to that of suspect Amanda Knox.
The court heard how imprints were taken of Knox, 21, and her former boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito, 25….
Police scientist Dr Lorenzo Rinaldi told the Italian court his forensic evidence was discovered by using Luminol - a substance that turns blue in the presence of blood.
“From our investigations we were able to conclude that the footprint found on the bath mat was compatible with that of Sollecito as was one found in the corridor using Luminol,” Dr Rinaldi said.
“We also found that a naked footprint found in Knox’s bedroom and in the corridor outside, again using Luminol, was compatible with the one taken from her in prison.”
Dr Rinaldi explained to the court how microscopic point to point measurements such as ‘‘heel to toe’’ or ‘‘toe and arch width’’ were used to identify the imprints.
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Friday, May 08, 2009
Sky News Has The Trial Agenda For Today And Tomorrow
Posted by Peter Quennell
Click above for NIck Pisa’s report.
This is some of the more telling and contentious evidence. The same evidence was not successfully rebutted Last October at the trial of Rudy Guede.
1) The items in evidence
The court is now set to hear details of how DNA was found on a knife and bloodied bra strap.
Key to the proceedings will be evidence relating to a 30cm kitchen knife found at Sollecito’s flat days after the murder in November 2007. Forensic experts say DNA from Meredith was discovered on the blade.
They claim Knox’s DNA was found on the handle of the knife, which they say is compatible with the murder weapon that has never been found.
The experts will also detail how DNA from computer studies graduate Sollecito was found on a piece of bloodied bra. The material is believed to have been ripped from Meredith’s body.,,
Besides the knife, the prosecution also claims Knox’s DNA was found mixed in blood spots from Meredith found at the scene in the shower and sink.
2) The forensics team
The forensics specialists include chief of the Italian Scientific Police Unit in Rome, Patrizia Stefanoni. She was part of the Disaster Investigations Team sent to the scene of the 2004 tsunami to identify victims…
Ms Stefanoni has given evidence that her team used gloves and tweezers at all times. She insisted that, despite claims from the defence, there was “no possibility” of contamination.
Knox and Sollecito’s lawyers insist the DNA evidence is tainted as it was poorly handled. They have also pointed out how the bra fragment was only picked up six weeks after the killing during a second search of the scene.
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Tuesday, May 05, 2009
The Puzzle Of The Cell Phones: Was Rudy Doomed From The Start?
Posted by Arnold_Layne
Current thinking is that about a year after the three were arrested, Rudy Guede’s team decided to request a fast-track trial because his team thought Knox and Sollecito might craft a defense that made Guede appear more guilty.
After he was convicted, defense supporters of course seized upon his conviction as the basis for the “lone wolf theory”. It is possible, however, that Guede’s defense team was more correct all along than they might have realized - that he really was being set up.
What did Knox and Sollecito actually have planned? Admittedly Sollecito had his knife fetish, and Knox’s sexuality was, well, you know. But since none had committed any violent crimes in the past, it is unlikely that they planned to commit one quite so significant as a murder at this point.
Contrary to what I had previously thought, Mignini may also be correct in his game theory. Their plan might have been to coerce Meredith into having sex with someone. If they couldn’t “talk her into it” they planned on intimidating her with the very large knife they brought along.
There is an inconsistency in the various scenarios that have been put forth. In one scenario, all three came to the cottage intending to physically harm Meredith, and that is why they brought the knife and turned their cell phones off. This doesn’t really make much sense because, for a murder, or even an assault with a knife, it was incredibly poorly planned.
Additionally, and more importantly, none of these people had a criminal past and so it is unlikely they would plan on committing quite such a horrible crime.
Another scenario, which is along Mignini’s lines, is that the three planned to use the knife only to intimidate Meredith into doing what they wanted – which was to get involved in a sex act with Guede by coercing and threatening her. This activity could be considered a sex game.
If the terrifying trio had planned on going to see Meredith merely to play a game, then why did Sollecito and Knox turn their cell phones off?
They must have realized that there was a possibility that what they were setting out to do could end poorly. If Meredith went along with what they planned, all would be okay. Hopefully, she’d be a good sport when it was over. If this is how it played out, there would have been no need to turn their cell phones off.
But on the other hand, if she wasn’t a good sport, and called the police, they would be able to move to Plan B: blame Rudy, and deny that they were even there. Turning their cell phones off fits with this outcome.
What this all suggests is that Rudy Guede really might have been set up.
He clearly would have left evidence of a sexual attack; but the two others, not so much. In fact, they may have planned to set Rudy up before they even asked him to participate. Their plan right from the start might have been to bring in a third person to take the fall if things didn’t go well.
So Sollecito and Knox might have planned a plausible sequence of events as an alibi in which Guede would be the only perp and they could be at Sollecito’s smoking hash and watching Internet movies.
So they needed someone who the police could easily accuse of the crime, and Rudy Guede filled the bill.
Why did they turn their cell phones off if they were only going to play a game? I think they had already planned to get a bit more serious, and to implicate Guede as the perp.
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Monday, April 27, 2009
Italian Media Is Reporting On The House Now The Owner Has It Back
Posted by Peter Quennell
Above: the panoramic view, from north-east to north-west, that Meredith would have looked out onto from her window.
The last shot above is approximately in the direction of her family and her home in the UK.
Meredith’s room and other places in the house where there was still trace-evidence of her murder were cleaned over the weekend.
Her books, photos and other personal items, all of which her family want back, were long ago removed as evidence. They are in police custody and all will end up in their possession.
This afternoon the owner through her lawyer made the house available to the two other women who lived upstairs and the men who lived downstairs. They and their families and representatives were invited to come by and collect all their possessions.
ANSA reports that only Knox’s father Curt Knox showed up.
Meredith’s two flatmates Filomena and Laura did not appear, though it is believed that they still live in Perugia. Apparently none of the boys showed up either.
Knox’s father filled a plastic bag and a suitcase with Amanda Knox’s gear. He left the house in the rain. “Personal things of my daughter,” he said to journalists without wanting to reveal what they were.
Apparently the items did include mountain-climbing gear. Knox to our knowledge had not done any climbing in Europe prior to her being arrested.
The interior of 7 Via della Pergola has apparently so far not been made available to any journalists. But it seems the owner has received big offers for exclusive pictures.
Craftsmen have already begun installing bars on the windows, to make the house more secure in the future. They are also assessing the interior work needed to make the place once again rentable.
A woman who was apparently the wife of one of the craftsmen entered the cottage with a holy picture. She left it in the room where Meredith breathed her last.
A pity that the owner seems less caring.
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Friday, April 24, 2009
Owner Says The House Will Be Available For Rent
Posted by Peter Quennell
Click for the report by Nick Pisa.
Seems to us a sad and rather disrespectful move. But the owner (who is retired) may have her own pressures. Apparently some compensation from the state will be claimed.
And it is again wrenching to read about the state of the interior, and the fact that some terrible signs of Meredith’s final fight for her life have never ever been removed.
There have been suggestions in the past that the action most respectful to Meredith would be to simply pull the place down, and add the land to the existing orchard.
Kermit did a Powerpoint presentation of why this rather strange house came to be, just outside of and below the city wall.
Our own shots of the house are here and here and here.
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Thursday, April 23, 2009
End To A Long And Unnecessary Charade Over The House
Posted by Peter Quennell
ANSA is reporting that the Court of Assizes of Perugia has acceded to the request of the owner of 7 Via Pergola to have his house back.
Well over one year ago the prosecutors had no objection to this. The crime scene had been thoroughly processed many weeks before, and there was no further evidentiary value.
However, the defense teams claimed they might want to run various tests and inspections. These happened only many months later. We posted on them here and here.
Nothing of value that we are aware of ever emerged from these exercises. If anything, they failed, rather conspicuously.
During the period of the very long defense-induced delay, the house was suspiciously broken into, twice, and the contents was severely disarrayed. Amazingly, defense supporters tried to win points out of this.
So the crime scene was processed well over one year ago, and everything since was pure distraction. And where Meredith lived for two months has been thoroughly desecrated.
We’re glad the defenses are FINALLY calling it quits on this sad charade.
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Tuesday, April 21, 2009
Understanding Why The DNA Is On The Knife
Posted by Peter Quennell
Our DNA poster Nicki has been careful not to exaggerate the impact as evidence of the DNA on the knife found in Sollecito’s apartment.
She accepts that in the eyes of the court there could be question marks over the size of the sample and the fact that the tests could not be repeated.
However, as the knife appeared to have been thoroughly cleaned with bleach, some remain intrigued that any DNA at all was found.
Click above for a short piece explaining why. That article by Juliet Lapidos was posted on the Slate site in November 2007. But we haven’t seen better, and it is still often referred to.
There appears to be a great deal more DNA evidence than merely what is on the knife, of course, and early in the trial the known luminol-evidence universe also expanded.
The court was told that AK-sized and RS-sized footprints appeared under luminol on the floor of Filomena’s room.
Nicki’s two Powerpoints on the DNA and Kermit’s Powerpoint (pre the new evidence) on the luminol can be seen here.
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Saturday, April 18, 2009
Trial: Another Objective Report From ABC News
Posted by Peter Quennell
[Images above and below: the lay judges and lawyers tour the crime scene]
Rome-based Ann Wise reports.
1) More on the issue of the second knife.
With journalists unable to attend the hearing, information on what Dr. Bacci said in court today came from lawyers as they emerged from the courthouse and, as always, interpretations differed.
Francesco Maresca, who represents the family of Meredith Kercher, is a firm believer in the prosecution’s theory that the murder was the result of a sex game gone wrong between all three defendants—Knox, Sollecito and Guede. He told journalists outside the courthouse that Dr. Bacci told the court that whoever attacked Kercher first tried to strangle her, and then stabbed her in the throat, possibly with two different knives.
Bacci said that the knife the prosecutors believe is the murder weapon is compatible with the largest and deepest cut in Kercher’s throat but is not compatible with another, smaller wound. This is the first time a witness for the prosecution has mentioned the possibility that more than one knife might have been used…
Maresca also told reporters that according to Dr. Bacci “injuries suggest” that Kercher had probably participated in a nonconsensual sexual act before she died.
Luca Maori, one of Sollecito’s lawyers, told journalists that based on Dr. Bacci’s conclusions, the knife prosecutors believe is the murder weapon is “only abstractly compatible” with the wounds found.
2) And more on the visit by the judges, jury and lawyers to the house - sadly, extremely disarrayed, it seems..
The afternoon was the occasion for the court in its entirety—minus the two defendants, who chose not to attend—to visit the scene of the crime. A small crowd, comprised of the two judges, six jurors and their substitutes, the prosecutors and a bevy of lawyers, gathered outside the charming cottage-with-a-view on the edge of old-town Perugia. On the road just above, another crowd of journalists and photographers and some hangers-on watched as policemen activated a generator (the electricity in the house has been cut off) and opened the door to the house.
“The court looked closely at the inside and the outside of the house,” [Prosecutor] Comodi said. The court spent a good amount of time in the room where the murder took place and discussed the position of the corpse. Carlo Dalla Vedova, a lawyer for Amanda Knox, told reporters the house “was a mess, and it was important that the jurors see this. Amanda’s clothes were thrown all over the place.”
There have been many press reports of bad forensic work and bad handling of the scene of the crime on the part of investigators, and this is expected to be an important part of the case the defense will make. The house where the crime took place has also been subjected to two break-ins in recent months, adding to the sorry state of the premises. The house is in “terrible condition,” Bongiorno said. “The mess made by the searches was compounded by the two beak-ins.”
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Today At Trial: One Busy Day For The Judges And Jury
Posted by Peter Quennell
Click above for Nick Pisa’s summary of planned events. We expect to have some shots in due course.
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Thursday, April 16, 2009
Our Best Shot At Making Amanda Knox’s Timeline Alibi Work
Posted by FinnMacCool
Amanda Knox’s first encounters with police and other witnesses the day after go to the very heart of her credibility.
Of her truth-telling or otherwise about events, and of her whole innocence or otherwise in the crime.
On Sunday 4 November 2007 Amanda Knox wrote an email to a student welfare officer at the University of Washington in Seattle.
Knox related what she said had happened at the house on Friday the 2nd before the communication police arrived to establish why Meredith’s two mobile phones were tossed into a garden a kilometer away.
This email was written while Amanda was alone and under no pressure.
Copies went to various relatives and friends. For many of her supporters, it represents the essential truth of what happened, before Amanda was interrogated by the police and began changing her story.
This analysis covers the period from noon to a quarter past one on the Friday, the day that Meredith Kercher’s murder was discovered.
It compares the claims in the email with cellphone records for Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito for the period.
The contents of the email
According to the email, Amanda and Raffaele were initially at Raffaele’s apartment at noon on November 2nd. The email describes how Amanda spoke with Filomena Romanelli and then tried to reach Meredith Kercher by phone.
It then explains that Amanda and Raffaele returned to the cottage, where they found evidence of a break-in, alongside some bloodstains which Amanda had already noticed.
They also observed that Meredith’s door was locked. After they tried and failed to break down this door, they phoned the police.
After that, Amanda claims she called Filomena once again, who said she would return to the cottage.
Cellphone records do not support this story, and nor do the police.
Two police officers arrived at the cottage to investigate Meredith’s two phones, which had been found in a neighbor’s garden. The police claim they arrived at 12:25, and video evidence appears to support this.
Amanda and Raffaele dispute the video evidence. They claim that the police arrived much later, after the call to the emergency services which Raffaele made at 12:55.
Below, we look first at the scenario described by Amanda, followed by the scenario described by the police, with a view to determining what really happened in that crucial hour between noon and one.
First scenario: Amanda Knox’s email is essentially true, the police account is essentially inaccurate
If we assume that the police are basically incorrect, and that Amanda Knox’s email is basically correct, in their respective rememberings of what happened on November 2 between noon and 1315, that leaves us with several puzzling questions. Here are some of them:
1. Where was Amanda at 1208?
At 1208, Amanda calls Filomena. Amanda claims that she made this call from Raffaele’s house.
However, in his prison diary, Raffaele describes the same conversation as taking place at the cottage.
Filomena says that Amanda explained, in that conversation, that she was at the cottage, and was on her way to fetch Raffaele.
2. Why didn’t Amanda call Raffaele?
Even though Amanda claims to have walked alone to the cottage, and to have been concerned enough about the bloodstains to want to bring Raffaele to have a look at them, she never attempted to phone Raffaele at all during the whole of that morning.
3. Why did Amanda stop calling Meredith’s phones?
Amanda first tried calling Meredith’s Italian phone at 12:07. At 12:08 she calls Filomena, who advises her to try Meredith’s phones. She doesn’t tell Filomena that she tried the UK phone just a minute ago (nor does she mention this in her email).
In the email, Amanda says she called Meredith’s phones after speaking to Filomena – cellphone records support this claim. But she also says that the Italian phone “just kept ringing, no answer”.
Her cellphone records show this call lasted just three seconds, and the call to the UK phone lasted just four seconds. (The WeAnswer Call service, which prides itself on how quickly it answers its customers’ calls, boasts that their average speed-of-answer is 5.5 seconds.)
Next, Amanda claims that she returns to the cottage with Raffaele.
But why doesn’t she try Meredith’s phones again? If the Italian phone was going to continually ring again – even for just three seconds – she’d now be able to hear it through the bedroom door (assuming Meredith had it with her).
But this doesn’t seem to have occurred to either Amanda or Raffaele.
4. Why didn’t Amanda call Filomena back?
In the 12:08 call, Amanda told Filomena she would try Meredith’s phones and then call her back.
In the email, Amanda claims that she called Filomena back three quarters of an hour later – after Raffaele’s finished calling the police at 12:55.
But cellphone records show that Amanda never called Filomena back at all.
On the other hand, Filomena DOES call Amanda back – at 12:12 and 12:20. It’s not clear whether Filomena receives an answer to these calls, or simply leaves a message – certainly, Amanda’s email makes no mention of having received these calls.
Then Filomena tries a third time, at 12:34, which is when Amanda tells her that Filomena’s own room has been broken into.
5. Why doesn’t Amanda mention that she called her mother in Seattle?
Her cellphone records also show that Amanda called her mother at 12:47 – but she makes no mention of this call in her email.
Edda Mellas claims that she told Amanda to hang up and call the police – but Amanda makes no mention of this advice in describing their decision to call the police.
The email describes the decision to call the police as something between herself and Raffaele, after she had tried to see through Meredith’s window, and after Raffaele had tried to break down Meredith’s door.
But in the ten minutes before Raffaele calls his sister (an officer in the carabinieri), Raffaele has received a call from his father (at 12:40:03) and Amanda has made a call to her mother (at 12:47:23) – neither of which calls is mentioned in the email.
Raffaele’s sister gives him the same advice that Edda Mellas gave Amanda: hang up and call the cops.
6. How can the tour of the cottage and the arrivals of first Marco and Luca, and then of Filomena and Paola, all take place between 12:55 and 13:00?
Raffaele makes the successful emergency call (lasting nearly a minute) at 12:54:39.
Meredith’s UK phone is activated at Police HQ at 13:00 – as part of a conversation which the postal police at the cottage are having about that phone with staff at HQ.
This conversation mentions Filomena’s arrival, and the information she’s given them about it being a UK phone.
This means that we need to fit the following activities into those five minutes, if Amanda’s email is to be believed:
- The postal police arrive later than 12:55
- Amanda and Raffaele give them a tour of the cottage, including the suspected break-in and the bloodstains in the bathroom
- Amanda writes down Meredith’s phone numbers for them, on a post-it note which Luca Altieri notices on the kitchen table when he arrives
- Marco and Luca arrive (and they see the post-it note) and have a conversation with the police about the ownership of the phones
- A few minutes later, Filomena and Paola Grande arrive. Filomena explains to the police about Meredith’s phones (one lent by Filomena, and the other a UK phone)
- The postal police make contact with their HQ
- During this call, Meredith’s phone is activated (at 13:00)
In addition, at some point, Paola sees Raffaele and Amanda emerging from Amanda’s bedroom – but it’s not clear whether this happened before or after 13:00. It could have been after.
But even if we move this emergence from the bedroom to after 1300, there simply isn’t enough time for all those other activities to take place in a period of less than five minutes.
Second scenario: the police account is basically accurate, Amanda Knox’s email is essentially untrue
Let us take the opposite scenario, and assume that the police are basically correct, and that Amanda Knox’s email is basically incorrect.
This then provides us with answers to those puzzles above, and also fills in some of the gaps that were otherwise missing from the timeline.
We also find that this new timeline is supported by evidence from other witnesses.
1. Where was Amanda at 12:08?
Amanda was at the cottage, and so was Raffaele.
Amanda was not telling the truth when she said she was going to fetch Raffaele – since Raffaele was in the room with her when she made the call.
This matches with the versions of both Filomena and Raffaele, who both believed that the call was made from the cottage.
2. Why didn’t Amanda call Raffaele?
Amanda never called Raffaele that morning because they were with each other the whole time – just as they continued to be with each other every moment until their arrest (except when separated for interrogations).
3. Why did Amanda stop calling Meredith’s phones?
Amanda called from the cottage in the first place, so there is no longer a question of why she called Meredith only from Raffaele’s apartment.
Also, she allowed the phone to ring only for three or four seconds because she knew that Meredith would not (and could not) pick up – she knew Meredith was dead.
The purpose of making these calls was simply for them to appear on her own cellphone record, to help construct an attempted alibi.
4. Why didn’t Amanda call Filomena back?
This question can be answered if we accept the hypothesis that Amanda’s intention was for Meredith’s body to be discovered by Filomena and/or Filomena’s friends.
When the police found the couple outside the property “waiting”, they were really waiting for the one living person that they had called that morning – Filomena.
Amanda ignores the calls at 12:12 and 12:20 because she wants Filomena to arrive at the cottage and to be the one who makes the “discoveries” of the break-in, and the locked bedroom.
So that when Filomena arrived at the cottage, Amanda and Raffaele (at the front of the house) could have said, “Oh, we decided to wait for you. Let’s go in together.”
However, Amanda answers Filomena’s 12:34 call because the police are already at the cottage and have already discovered the alleged break-in.
So now Amanda needs Filomena to arrive as quickly as possible – and at this point she tells Filomena about the break-in and the locked door.
Unfortunately for Amanda, however, Filomena decides to call Marco and get himself and Luca to go there first – knowing that they will be able to reach the cottage much more quickly.
Amanda tries to delay the breaking open of the room by telling the police, and by telling Luca, that it’s normal for Meredith to lock her own door.
She does this because, when it comes to the breaking down of the door, they want the others to be the first ones on the scene - and we can see that when the door is broken down for real, Amanda and Raffaele withdraw to the kitchen.
Unfortunately for Amanda, however, she can’t resist boasting later to Meredith’s English friends that she herself was the first on the scene.
5. Why doesn’t Amanda mention that she called her mother in Seattle?
Amanda’s email is essentially fictional.
The police arrived around 12:30, which is when they said, and this is corroborated by the CCTV evidence from the car park (timed at 12:25).
So the police have been in the cottage for about a quarter of an hour when Amanda calls her mother.
Amanda is first called away from the police to answer Filomena’s 12:34 call, just as Raffaele is called away a few minutes later to answer a call from his father at 12:40.
However, it is not until the arrival of Marco and Luca that they are able to escape to the privacy of Amanda’s bedroom, where they make the phone calls first to Amanda’s mother, then to Raffaele’s sister, and then the two calls to the police.
Notice that Edda and Raffaele’s sister both give the same advice: Hang up and call the police. And that’s exactly what they do, in fact.
However, in trying to create a fictional backdrop for making the emergency calls, Amanda forgets that she’s already called her mother.
Now she tries to explain that she and Raffaele called the police because of their panic over the locked room – panic which seems not to exist when Amanda is telling Luca that Meredith usually locks her door.
(Notice that in this version, we don’t need to believe that nobody can understand what Amanda says.)
After making these calls, Amanda and Raffaele emerge from the bedroom, as described by Paola Grande.
Paola’s memory of arriving at the cottage just before one is supported by the activation of Meredith’s cellphone at 1300.
6. How can the tour of the cottage and the arrivals of first Marco and Luca, and then of Filomena and Paola, all take place between 12:55 and 13:00?
It doesn’t. The tour of the cottage takes a more realistic fifteen minutes (roughly 12:30 to 12:45).
The police spend ten minutes talking to Luca and Marco about the phones, and about the suspected break-in, and so on (roughly 12:46 to 12:55), while they await the arrival of Filomena and Paola.
The girls arrive shortly before one, as the girls said, and as the phone records support, and explain the situation of the phones to the police (roughly 12:56 to 13:00).
There follows another fifteen minute examination of the house, culminating in the breaking down of the door by Luca Altieri at 13:15.
Conclusion
This version may or may not be accurate, but at least it is supported by external evidence, not contradicted by it.
It is easy to see why Judge Micheli’s report found that the cellphone records do not support Raffaele Sollecito’s claim to have called the flying squad before the postal police arrived.
It is also easy to see why these timings undermine other stories told by the two defendants – such as Amanda’s December 2007 claim that she thought the postal police were in fact the police that Raffaele had just called.
Such a claim is absurd, given that Battistelli contacts HQ with a status report less than five minutes after Raffaele’s 112 call was made.
The bottom line is that this does not look promising for Amanda Knox.
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Tuesday, April 07, 2009
Judges And Jury To Visit House On The 17th: What Can We Expect?
Posted by Arnold_Layne
Having seen and heard the autopsy evidence, the judges and jury will now see the actual crime scene. What might we expect from this?
I think this will have an emotional and lasting impact on them. Until now, everything has been pictures and talk. Seeing the actual site of the brutal murder right after the autopsy information will cement the enormity of the crime in their minds.
For one thing, they will most likely try to reconstruct the crime in their minds. When might Meredith have eaten mushrooms? With whom? What was the sequence of events in the attack? What was visible from the park? Where did the sexual assault take place? The torturous stabbing? The final thrust to the neck?
The defense will also have to present images that are more consistent with what the jurors have actually seen. It will be much more difficult for them to create a fuzzy mental picture of someone breaking in when they have actually seen the window.
A question still for me is where the actual attack took place.
We know it ended in the bedroom. But why did Knox and Sollecito seemingly spend the entire night cleaning up the common areas? And if Guede was voluntarily with Mez, why did he not use the bathroom adjacent to her room? Why was there so little DNA evidence in Meredith’s room after such an epic struggle?
When the jurors leave this murder scene, they will be very different people. This crime will be much more real to them, and rendering a verdict will no longer be just a civic duty.
When they next meet in court, I have to wonder what their impression will be of a smiling, carefree Amanda Knox.
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Friday, April 03, 2009
Trial: Andrea Vogt Reports Patrick Lumumba’s Testimony
Posted by Peter Quennell
Andrea Vogt is still providing her usual fine reports on the trial on the Seattle PI website.
Click above for her report late today on what Patrick Lumumba told the court of his experiences.
He was the one fingered by Knox as the perp, and it took two weeks to get that charge refuted.
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Trial: Court Sees Graphic Photos And Video Footage Of The Autopsy
Posted by Peter Quennell
Click above for the first English-language report, by Richard Owen of The Times.
Lawyers at the session, which was held in camera, said that Ms Knox, 21, Ms Kercher’s American flatmate, had refused to look at the footage, keeping her head down and at times burying it in her folded arms on the table in front of her. Mr Sollecito, 25, Ms Knox’s former Italian boyfriend, occasionally glanced at the screen in the courtroom.
The image of Amanda Knox that the Times used here may be a bit misleading. She was talking with Mr Ghirga a week ago in court when it was taken.
here is an additional report just posted by Nick Pisa on Sky News.
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